ISSUE HALLIFAX FOR USING OOC WORDS IN AN IC FORMAT; HELP LANGUAGE RULES
Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
Psh. It's not Greek, it's Archaic Lucidian. Which just happens to look a lot like simplified Ancient Greek. It's a complete coincidence. Really.
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Yeah, that sorta bugs me too. I'm okay with the occasional reference, like Gaelic appearing in some places as old elfen, or French in Delport. But when an entire city is running around with blatant RL foreign language words as their titles, that's hugely annoying. I could understand if it was a few people having fun, but this is... too much.
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Yeah I get the having fun, but I generally wince inside at it. What on earth is it supposed to mean to anyone? Like people who have a motto in latin, they irk me too. Much oocedness, do not want.
There's actually grounds for latin, looking at the names of Ritual skills. I've been contemplating writing a piece about latin under the name of Old Imperial.
There's actually grounds for latin, looking at the names of Ritual skills. I've been contemplating writing a piece about latin under the name of Old Imperial.
I've always treated Old Celest as Rome, broadly speaking. I've mentioned Old Merian in a few of my books that would put it as an analogue to Latin.
EDIT: Also the message for hearing Merian when you don't understand makes me immediately think of Latin, but that might just be me speaking from my own personal biases.
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HALLIFAX NEWS #1014 Date: 6/9/2015 at 4:44 From: Bibliophulax Aristos Teknistos @Portius Windwhisper, Megalokalos Niketer Tarochos To : Everyone Subj: Contention of the Highest Office
Acquaintances, inferiors, Hallifaxians, lend me your ears. I come to succeed Zitto, not to mourn him.
There are none in the Collective who do not know of my great achievements. I have attained the acme of excellence in all of the fields of mortal endeavour to which I have turned my attention, and it is that simple fact which I offer as proof of my right to rule. I am a lord of the highest castes, having earned that honor not only as a man of science but also as an artist. I am, in short, one of the greatest masters of the noblest pursuits who ever lived.
You will nonetheless want to know my intentions for the city. Simply put, I mean to utterly crush any and all shreds of populism that have taken root in the city. I will begin programs of indoctrination to purge the populace of all sympathy for the savage forestals and replace it with a desire to exterminate all barbarity from the world. I will secure the full rights and honors for the highest caste that those honorable public servants deserve, directing the entire state to the benefit of them and their noble pursuits. In doing so I will answer only to the peerage itself, for only that esteemed body has proven itself to be of sufficient intellect to play a role in the affairs of the state.
I will order that the city embrace the Taint to the greatest extent possible, in order to increase Hallifaxian power beyond that of all other nations. I will arrange for the Matrix itself to be tainted if a method for doing so can be safely developed. Recognizing that the weaker members of society, those who lack the insight and strength of will to look beyond an unpleasant appearance to see hidden potential, are likely to object to this plan, I shall order their indoctrination, execution, or exile as their personal strength and the needs of Hallifax dictate.
Hallifax will be aligned with my will until it is utterly perfected, and then the rest of the world will be made to accept civilization or else be put to the sword.
I want to emphasize that I first wrote that as a joke for HA before like all of them encouraged me to actually post it and run. It's like an entire clan of shoulder devils.
I also secured oaths of polite and OOCly civil opposition before I agreed to run.
Any sufficiently advanced pun is indistinguishable from comedy.
I should point out that Serenewilde already uses a realy world language for Spiritsinger stuff, and it's spread into other Seren things.
Of course, it's Manx, which no one's ever heard of and is close to dead (though great effort is being made to preserve it's use). So it doesn't feel quite like the use of Ancient Greek, that a lot of people do know.
HALLIFAX NEWS #1014 Date: 6/9/2015 at 4:44 From: Bibliophulax Aristos Teknistos @Portius Windwhisper, Megalokalos Niketer Tarochos To : Everyone Subj: Contention of the Highest Office
I will order that the city embrace the Taint to the greatest extent possible, in order to increase Hallifaxian power beyond that of all other nations. I will arrange for the Matrix itself to be tainted if a method for doing so can be safely developed.
Ha! Good luck buddy! Your flying city will come crashing down into the mountains and provide us with much entertainment. Go for it.
Well, obviously he's going to throw me into the Matrix to Taint it, raising me as a Vernal Ascendant in the process. Then we kick out Issy and Jadice and Zvolt and have a pantheon of only Drocilla. Then we start remodelling...though the tea shoppe can stay. V classy.
The current fan theory is that he taints the Matrix to make it more powerful, travels back in time using the empowered Matrix to steal another civilization's edifice of power (and incidentally doom that timeline to destruction at the hands of the soulless), and returns to the present to try rule the Basin as an insane vernal god odious to basically everyone.
That's my concern on a lot of this - I think the concept-building is a lot of fun, but the actual implementation of any of it could lead to a lot of tears on all sides. It's a slim chance, but I'd hate to see the consequences to Hallifax for this. Especially the bit about trying to eject Patrons from a City. Strictly from my perspective - I don't see that being rewarding for the volunteers involved, or something that would lead to any other patrons becoming invested in the organization for a while, given the history.
Also, this language stuff is strictly fanon rather than canon, but nice job tracking down the Greek.
(PS: If I were any of the involved Patrons, I'd be rather insulted on an IC and possibly OOC level, especially considering all the work Halli's patrons have put into the city itself.)
I want to emphasize that I first wrote that as a joke for HA before like all of them encouraged me to actually post it and run. It's like an entire clan of shoulder devils.
I also secured oaths of polite and OOCly civil opposition before I agreed to run.
I had been wondering if it was deliberately provocative to encourage others to contest.
Yeah, that sorta bugs me too. I'm okay with the occasional reference, like Gaelic appearing in some places as old elfen, or French in Delport. But when an entire city is running around with blatant RL foreign language words as their titles, that's hugely annoying. I could understand if it was a few people having fun, but this is... too much.
I fully agree with this. There are already numerous possible titles to choose from that are already in place, rank titles, ministry titles, etc. Why the need for a bunch of new ones that are completely confusing and have never had any base in the game before? then again the entire "Special language" thing has always annoyed my before. The Blacktalon with their crow tongue for example.. you already have that.. it's a skill that allows you speak in Crow so that only others who can speak that language can hear you. why the need for all the mor'k'al crud. Same goes for Serenwilde and it's use of archaic language as well.. if our characters were meant to be titled that or use those languages, those would be the languages they speak. They don't. It's annoying but meh. thats my opinion.
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I've always treated Old Celest as Rome, broadly speaking. I've mentioned Old Merian in a few of my books that would put it as an analogue to Latin.
EDIT: Also the message for hearing Merian when you don't understand makes me immediately think of Latin, but that might just be me speaking from my own personal biases.
Date: 6/9/2015 at 4:44
From: Bibliophulax Aristos Teknistos @Portius Windwhisper, Megalokalos Niketer Tarochos
To : Everyone
Subj: Contention of the Highest Office
Acquaintances, inferiors, Hallifaxians, lend me your ears. I come to
succeed Zitto, not to mourn him.
There are none in the Collective who do not know of my great
achievements. I have attained the acme of excellence in all of the
fields of mortal endeavour to which I have turned my attention, and it
is that simple fact which I offer as proof of my right to rule. I am a
lord of the highest castes, having earned that honor not only as a man
of science but also as an artist. I am, in short, one of the greatest
masters of the noblest pursuits who ever lived.
You will nonetheless want to know my intentions for the city. Simply
put, I mean to utterly crush any and all shreds of populism that have
taken root in the city. I will begin programs of indoctrination to purge
the populace of all sympathy for the savage forestals and replace it
with a desire to exterminate all barbarity from the world. I will secure
the full rights and honors for the highest caste that those honorable
public servants deserve, directing the entire state to the benefit of
them and their noble pursuits. In doing so I will answer only to the
peerage itself, for only that esteemed body has proven itself to be of
sufficient intellect to play a role in the affairs of the state.
I will order that the city embrace the Taint to the greatest extent
possible, in order to increase Hallifaxian power beyond that of all
other nations. I will arrange for the Matrix itself to be tainted if a
method for doing so can be safely developed. Recognizing that the weaker
members of society, those who lack the insight and strength of will to
look beyond an unpleasant appearance to see hidden potential, are likely
to object to this plan, I shall order their indoctrination, execution,
or exile as their personal strength and the needs of Hallifax dictate.
Hallifax will be aligned with my will until it is utterly perfected, and
then the rest of the world will be made to accept civilization or else
be put to the sword.
Glory to the Collective.
I also secured oaths of polite and OOCly civil opposition before I agreed to run.
Vive l'apostrophe!
Of course, it's Manx, which no one's ever heard of and is close to dead (though great effort is being made to preserve it's use). So it doesn't feel quite like the use of Ancient Greek, that a lot of people do know.
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Ixion tells you, "// I don't think anyone else had a clue, amazing form."
I had been wondering if it was deliberately provocative to encourage others to contest.
HA prompting explains everything!