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VadiVadi
edited October 2012 in Mechanic's Corner
Hi!

m&m is a curing system for Mudlet.

You can view the full features page here; tl;dr version is: public system, runs on Mudlet, cures awesome, works fast (doesn't lag down in group fights), easy to use, 100% customizable priorities, built to be scripted with, includes choke curing, defences, 80cr.

System has been used for over a year now in Domoths, raids, FFAs, wargames by some of the most competent fighters in the game. Feedback has been quite positive!

The pricing of the system is simple - it's 80cr (or $22.64) for the system, and that includes all tertiaries for your class. Switching to a class of the same archetype is free; switching to another archetype is 30cr (or $10.20). Alt systems are free as well (for the archetypes you have).

System updates come regularly - for both for in-game changes, fixes, improvements and new features to the system.

Please ask any questions you have about the system and whatnot in this thread!
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  • ZaydenZayden
    I must be an idiot, but when I was going through to reinstall m&m with the new package, it kept loading the old one. So I moved around all of my files, deleted a bunch, and then tried to do a fresh install.
    I'm using Mudlet 2.1, just reinstalled it 5 mins ago.

    Trying to install again and getting this error:

    "module 'm&m' not found:
        no field package.preload['m&m']
        no file 'C:/Documents and Settings/kat/My Documents/Games/Lusternia/m&m'
        no file 'C:/Documents and Settings/kat/My Documents/Games/Lusternia/m&m.lua'
        no file 'C:/Documents and Settings/kat/My Documents/Games/Lusternia/m&m.dll'
        no file 'C:/Documents and Settings/kat/My Documents/Games/Lusternia/m&m.so'
        no file '.\m&m.dll'
        no file 'C:\Documents and Settings\kat\Local Settings\Application Data\Mudlet\m&m.dll'
        no file 'C:\Documents and Settings\kat\Local Settings\Application Data\Mudlet\loadall.dll'"

    I've done everything I can think to fix it, but I don't know what's going on. I've redownloaded m&m, I've removed all existing saved profiles from Mudlet. I know that those filepaths are for what m&m used to be installed under but I'm not sure how to actually get it reinstalled. Following all of the directions.
  • ZaydenZayden
    Fixed it! Cleared out the old profile entirely and it all works.
  • VadiVadi
    Ah glad you got it.
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  • ReylReyl
    Anybody had any luck with the influencer? I'm pretty sure it's my own silly fault but it's been giving me grief, it never analyses, and seduction influencing messes it up (it doesn't know when it's done influencing)

    I've tried debugging it myself, but I am miserable at anything beyond simple convenience scripting. Can anybody give me some pointers, or at least reassure me that it works fine for them and it's my fault? Hehe
  • ReylReyl
    Anybody had any luck with the influencer? I'm pretty sure it's my own silly fault but it's been giving me grief, it never analyses, and seduction influencing messes it up (it doesn't know when it's done influencing)

    I've tried debugging it myself, but I am miserable at anything beyond simple convenience scripting. Can anybody give me some pointers, or at least reassure me that it works fine for them and it's my fault? Hehe
  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.
    I didn't know vadi's system had an influencer 0.o
    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • KioKio
    Shaddus said:
    I didn't know vadi's system had an influencer 0.o
    'Tis an addon.  It works very well, though it randomizes your attack, so you often repeat them.
  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.
    What's the line I put into a trigger to pause or unpause the system for things like timed instakills?
    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • EnyalidaEnyalida Nasty Woman, Sockpuppeteer to the Gods
    Look in the pp alias? That's always how I reminded myself.
  • KaimanahiKaimanahi The One True Queen
    edited September 2013
    Shaddus said:
    What's the line I put into a trigger to pause or unpause the system for things like timed instakills?
    mm.app(true) -- pauses
    mm.app(false) -- unpauses
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  • JanalonJanalon
    Gwah. I'm having trouble getting the beastmastery add on to work properly. I'd really love to see an update for GMCP to simplify the "Lost Balance" or "Got Balance" code. Does anyone have their own home-brew fix they could share here? I'd greatly appreciate it!



    ALSO, my PVE bashing hot key doesn't seem to trigger my "BOR Beast Attack". I know this because BOR entered separately of my hot key seems to work well enough (even though I don't think my got/lost balance is configured correctly). Please see my code below:


    -- replace your attack here

    if not mm.dorepeat then
    mmba.addr("bor beast order attack " .. janalon_pvetar .. "", true)
    mm.dor("kata perform " .. janalon_pvetar .. " hunt", true)

    mm.dorepeat = true
    else
    mm.dor(nil, true)
    mm.dorepeat = false
    end



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  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.
    should it be "dor" instead of "bor"?

    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • JanalonJanalon
    Beastmastery Add On gives:

    BO
    BOR
    BOUNDO
    BOUNDOALL

    I use the DOR for repeating my kata performance. Hence why I want to use BOR before DOR (and feel that I need them both to work alongside one another).
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  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.
    Gotcha. I feel sheepish, as all I do for my beast is DOR BEAST ORDER ATTACK <mytarget>$ATTACK 
    <mytarget>
    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • JanalonJanalon
    Shaddus said:
    Gotcha. I feel sheepish, as all I do for my beast is DOR BEAST ORDER ATTACK <mytarget>$ATTACK 
    <mytarget>

    And then what happens when you are under aeon while sliven hunting?
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  • KioKio
    Janalon said:
    Shaddus said:
    Gotcha. I feel sheepish, as all I do for my beast is DOR BEAST ORDER ATTACK <mytarget>$ATTACK 
    <mytarget>

    And then what happens when you are under aeon while sliven hunting?
    I kill the slivven with a WSC from my beast and giggle because it tried so hard.
  • EnyalidaEnyalida Nasty Woman, Sockpuppeteer to the Gods
    edited October 2013
    A lot of repeat systems (including stratagems, I believe) automatically clear themselves when aeon is detected. M&M has this sort of capability, and a good 'command denier' for aeon conditions.' 
  • NeosNeos The Subtle Griefer
    I personally just include my beast attack in the my attack alias, rather than having them as two separate things.
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  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.
    Janalon said:
    Shaddus said:
    Gotcha. I feel sheepish, as all I do for my beast is DOR BEAST ORDER ATTACK <mytarget>$ATTACK 
    <mytarget>

    And then what happens when you are under aeon while sliven hunting?
    Shaddus is above hunting slivvens. He hires peons to do that for him.
    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • XenthosXenthos Shadow Lord
    Shaddus said:
    Janalon said:
    Shaddus said:
    Gotcha. I feel sheepish, as all I do for my beast is DOR BEAST ORDER ATTACK <mytarget>$ATTACK 
    <mytarget>

    And then what happens when you are under aeon while sliven hunting?
    Shaddus is above hunting slivvens. He hires peons to do that for him.
    Uh, but the peons are Shaddus...

    You failed to think this one through.
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  • NaylNayl
    Xenthos said:
    Shaddus said:
    Janalon said:
    Shaddus said:
    Gotcha. I feel sheepish, as all I do for my beast is DOR BEAST ORDER ATTACK <mytarget>$ATTACK 
    <mytarget>

    And then what happens when you are under aeon while sliven hunting?
    Shaddus is above hunting slivvens. He hires peons to do that for him.
    Uh, but the peons are Shaddus...

    You failed to think this one through.
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  • VadiVadi

    If you're interested in getting your m&m setup for multiple classes, you already can. Out of the box, it is workable, but not optimal.

    Similar to how m&m already supports highmagic and lowmagic in one - but where you want to change your mmconfigs for powercures to disable one set and enable another set - classes are supported as well. That is, you can have multiple classes included in your m&m, but there is no mmconfig class <switch to a new one> in yet - all of them will be enabled, every class skill will want to defup and keepup that you've got - so you'll want to juggle enabling/disabling those sets for the moment yourself.

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  • RamiRami
    Is there any way to add timestamps to the prompt? I can't seem to find the option in the documentation. 
  • KaimanahiKaimanahi The One True Queen
    There are ways to add it to the prompt, but most simply there is a button at the bottom right of the Mudlet window, a blue circle with a white "i", that enables time stamps. Does that satisfy your needs?
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  • VadiVadi
    See what Kelly said - or add @timestamp to your customprompt.
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  • RialormRialorm
    How does m&m handle psionic / psychometabolism defences? In particular, I added a bunch to defup / keepup. Most get put up nicely, but biofeedbackfire, bodydensity and secondsight are not getting put up. Their channels are all free, so it is not due to that.

    For reference, my current defenses as well as defup and keepup config:

    (m&m): Your current defences (36):
    [ ] amberbeer              [ ] darkbeer               [ ] oolongtea
    [X] thirdeye               [ ] riding                 [X] garb
    [ ] psishield              [X] nightsight             [ ] obliviousness
    [X] insomnia               [X] kafe                   [ ] metawake
    [ ] curio                  [ ] planarbond             [X] frost
    [ ] selfishness            [ ] lipread                [ ] yoyo
    [ ] aethersight            [ ] charismaticaura        [X] fire
    [ ] protection             [ ] nightsweats            [ ] kirigami
    [ ] performance            [X] truedeaf               [ ] breath
    [ ] keeneye                [ ] attune                 [ ] galvanism
    [ ] whitetea               [ ] greentea               [X] deathsense
    [ ] blacktea               [ ] lovedef                [ ] rebounding
    [X] trueblind              [X] quicksilver            [ ] truetime
    [ ] wetfold               
    (m&m): Nekotai defences:
    [ ] deflectleft            [ ] screeleft              [X] deflectright
    [X] grip                   [ ] screeright             [X] scorpiontail
    [ ] scorpionfury          
    (m&m): Psychometabolism defences:
    [X] psiregeneration        [ ] forcedsymmetry         [ ] pheromones
    [ ] lifedrain              [X] mindfield              [X] gliding
    [ ] enhancementspread      [X] enhancementdexterity   [ ] enhancementstrength
    [X] energycontainment      [ ] introspection          [ ] biocurrents
    [ ] suspendedanimation     [ ] bonedensity            [ ] doublepain
    [ ] bloodboil              [X] ironskin              
    (m&m): Lowmagic defences:
    [X] red                    [ ] shield                 [ ] autumn
    [ ] orange                 [ ] blue                   [ ] yellow
    (m&m): Psionics defences:
    [ ] biofeedbackmagic       [X] psisense               [X] mindbar
    [ ] bodydensity            [ ] biofeedbackcold        [ ] psiarmour
    [ ] secondsight            [ ] ironwill               [ ] biofeedbackelectric
    [ ] biofeedbackfire       
    (m&m): Stealth defences:
    [ ] awareness              [ ] veil                   [ ] whisper
    [ ] eavesdrop              [X] sneak                  [ ] mislead
    [ ] screen                 [ ] infiltrate             [X] bracing
    [X] agility                [ ] deepcover              [ ] masquerade
    (m&m): Enchantment defences:
    [X] beauty                 [ ] levitation             [X] nimbus
    [X] waterbreathing         [ ] deathsight             [ ] goldenbox
    [X] acquisitio             [ ] emeraldbox             [X] kingdom
    [ ] waterwalk              [X] avaricehorn            [X] mercy
    [X] perfection             [ ] azurebox              
    (m&m): Acrobatics defences:
    [ ] adroitness             [ ] falling                [ ] handstand
    [ ] hyperventilate         [ ] tripleflash            [ ] hyperactive
    [ ] elasticity             [ ] balancing              [ ] avoid
    [ ] limber                
    (m&m): Additional defences:
    [X] domoth minor war       [X] nightwraith           


    (m&m): Basic defup defences (click to toggle):
    [ ] amberbeer              [ ] darkbeer               [ ] oolongtea
    [X] thirdeye               [ ] riding                 [X] garb
    [ ] psishield              [X] nightsight             [ ] obliviousness
    [X] insomnia               [X] kafe                   [ ] metawake
    [ ] curio                  [ ] planarbond             [X] frost
    [ ] selfishness            [ ] lipread                [ ] yoyo
    [ ] aethersight            [ ] charismaticaura        [X] fire
    [ ] protection             [ ] nightsweats            [ ] kirigami
    [ ] performance            [X] truedeaf               [ ] breath
    [ ] keeneye                [ ] attune                 [ ] galvanism
    [ ] whitetea               [ ] greentea               [X] deathsense
    [ ] blacktea               [ ] lovedef                [ ] rebounding
    [ ] trueblind              [X] quicksilver            [ ] truetime
    [ ] wetfold               
    (m&m): Nekotai defences:
    [ ] deflectleft            [ ] screeleft              [X] deflectright
    [X] grip                   [ ] screeright             [X] scorpiontail
    [X] scorpionfury          
    (m&m): Psychometabolism defences:
    [X] psiregeneration        [ ] forcedsymmetry         [ ] pheromones
    [ ] lifedrain              [X] mindfield              [X] gliding
    [ ] enhancementspread      [X] enhancementdexterity   [ ] enhancementstrength
    [X] energycontainment      [ ] introspection          [ ] biocurrents
    [ ] suspendedanimation     [X] bonedensity            [ ] doublepain
    [ ] bloodboil              [X] ironskin              
    (m&m): Lowmagic defences:
    [X] red                    [ ] shield                 [ ] autumn
    [ ] orange                 [ ] blue                   [ ] yellow
    (m&m): Psionics defences:
    [ ] biofeedbackmagic       [X] psisense               [X] mindbar
    [X] bodydensity            [ ] biofeedbackcold        [ ] psiarmour
    [X] secondsight            [ ] ironwill               [ ] biofeedbackelectric
    [X] biofeedbackfire       
    (m&m): Stealth defences:
    [ ] awareness              [ ] veil                   [ ] whisper
    [ ] eavesdrop              [X] sneak                  [ ] mislead
    [ ] screen                 [ ] infiltrate             [X] bracing
    [X] agility                [ ] deepcover              [ ] masquerade
    (m&m): Enchantment defences:
    [X] beauty                 [ ] levitation             [X] nimbus
    [X] waterbreathing         [ ] deathsight             [ ] goldenbox
    [X] acquisitio             [ ] emeraldbox             [X] kingdom
    [ ] waterwalk              [X] avaricehorn            [X] mercy
    [X] perfection             [ ] azurebox              
    (m&m): Acrobatics defences:
    [ ] adroitness             [ ] falling                [ ] handstand
    [ ] hyperventilate         [ ] tripleflash            [ ] hyperactive
    [ ] elasticity             [ ] balancing              [ ] avoid
    [ ] limber                


    (m&m): Basic keepup defences (click to toggle):
    [ ] amberbeer              [ ] darkbeer               [ ] oolongtea
    [X] thirdeye               [ ] riding                 [X] garb
    [ ] psishield              [X] nightsight             [ ] obliviousness
    [X] insomnia               [X] kafe                   [ ] metawake
    [ ] curio                  [ ] planarbond             [X] frost
    [ ] selfishness            [ ] lipread                [ ] yoyo
    [ ] aethersight            [ ] charismaticaura        [X] fire
    [ ] protection             [ ] nightsweats            [ ] kirigami
    [ ] performance            [X] truedeaf               [ ] breath
    [ ] keeneye                [ ] attune                 [ ] galvanism
    [ ] whitetea               [ ] greentea               [X] deathsense
    [ ] blacktea               [ ] lovedef                [ ] rebounding
    [ ] trueblind              [X] quicksilver            [ ] truetime
    [ ] wetfold               
    (m&m): Nekotai defences:
    [ ] deflectleft            [ ] screeleft              [X] deflectright
    [X] grip                   [ ] screeright             [X] scorpiontail
    [X] scorpionfury          
    (m&m): Psychometabolism defences:
    [X] psiregeneration        [ ] forcedsymmetry         [ ] pheromones
    [ ] lifedrain              [X] mindfield              [X] gliding
    [ ] enhancementspread      [X] enhancementdexterity   [ ] enhancementstrength
    [X] energycontainment      [ ] introspection          [ ] biocurrents
    [ ] suspendedanimation     [X] bonedensity            [ ] doublepain
    [ ] bloodboil              [X] ironskin              
    (m&m): Lowmagic defences:
    [X] red                    [ ] shield                 [ ] autumn
    [ ] orange                 [ ] blue                   [ ] yellow
    (m&m): Psionics defences:
    [ ] biofeedbackmagic       [X] psisense               [X] mindbar
    [X] bodydensity            [ ] biofeedbackcold        [ ] psiarmour
    [X] secondsight            [ ] ironwill               [ ] biofeedbackelectric
    [X] biofeedbackfire       
    (m&m): Stealth defences:
    [ ] awareness              [ ] veil                   [ ] whisper
    [ ] eavesdrop              [X] sneak                  [ ] mislead
    [ ] screen                 [ ] infiltrate             [X] bracing
    [X] agility                [ ] deepcover              [ ] masquerade
    (m&m): Enchantment defences:
    [X] beauty                 [ ] levitation             [X] nimbus
    [X] waterbreathing         [ ] deathsight             [ ] goldenbox
    [X] acquisitio             [ ] emeraldbox             [X] kingdom
    [ ] waterwalk              [X] avaricehorn            [X] mercy
    [X] perfection             [ ] azurebox              
    (m&m): Acrobatics defences:
    [ ] adroitness             [ ] falling                [ ] handstand
    [ ] hyperventilate         [ ] tripleflash            [ ] hyperactive
    [ ] elasticity             [ ] balancing              [ ] avoid
    [ ] limber                
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  • NeosNeos The Subtle Griefer
    Unfortunately, m&m defs up psionics defenses 1 by 1 and doesn't make use of all 3 channels at once. What I did was add mindbar to my defup, then trigger off that to defup psisense and bodydensity at the same time. You could do the same if you wish. As to your specific issue, not sure, sorry.
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  • VadiVadi
    edited December 2013
    Wrong thread
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  • ShaddusShaddus , the Leper Messiah Outside your window.
    Wrong thread, but hello anyway!
    Everiine said: The reason population is low isn't because there are too many orgs. It's because so many facets of the game are outright broken and protected by those who benefit from it being that way. An overabundance of gimmicks (including game-breaking ones), artifacts that destroy any concept of balance, blatant pay-to-win features, and an obsession with convenience that makes few things actually worthwhile all contribute to the game's sad decline.
  • LeradLerad
    Secondsight is just trueblind. It is not shown in the defup as being deffed up, but shown as being trueblind in the general when it is up.

    In fact, you don't even need to set secondsight to defup, just set trueblind to defup and it'll use secondsight if it has a free psi balance to.

    There's no way to make it use 3 psi balances automatically without adding tweaks, so use whatever fix you want to do it. Neos' suggestion is good. I personally just have all the psi defences that don't lock a channel put onto aliases that puts them up 3 at a time, and I run through those aliases manually before I hit my bashing or combat defmode.

    Setting m&m to use defup or keepup locked channel defences never worked for me. I haven't tried lately, though, Vadi might have updated to code to do it. But it's a bad idea anyway. I just have a bunch of aliases that set up which channels to lock with what defences. For example, I have an alias that sets me up for physical bashing locks, bloodboil, regen, psiarmour. Another that sets me up for magical bashing locks with a variable that lets me specify which biofeedback type to use etc.

    tl;dr - Just manual it.

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