Something to consider, beyond the fact that you're really wasting your time right now, is that I was capable of having Teller escorted away by my subordinates after our conversation. Sadly, I can't just copy it here word for word, but there was not any broken glass involved in the message I got. We had a calm, civil conversation, and he was set up with his new lab in California.
Of course, what Silvanus provided me with versus what he provided Synkarin with is completely up in the air. And there's one other thing to take into consideration to not lynch. Assume I'm not lynched, and the scum come for me, because hey, vigs can disrupt their plans. They'll solve your problem neatly, eliminating me and proving I am who I said I am. I'll hold off on firing anyone else prematurely, you hold off on lynching me. Deal?
I'm pretty sure @Tarkenton is scum - things aren't adding up (calm message vs broken glass/confrontation/forced escort out)? The 'the scum will lynch me' argument is weak because now the scum would know what we are expecting, and best scum move is to keep us on our toes.
Something about Tremula seems off as well, but I'd say we lynch Tarkenton and go from there.
I think you're at 4 votes by the way, @Allyrianne's vote seems to have been missed in @Silvanus last count (unless I'm missing her unvote)
"'Cause the fighting don't stop till I walk in." -Synkarin's Lament.
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Would the scum come for you, though, Tark? I don't know if they would. If you're town you are already proving to be a useful scapegoat for them. My gut feel is they would keep you around hoping we would eventually turn on you one way or another. And obviously if you are not town, they wouldn't kill you either, adding to the confusion if you live to the next day. (I'm a bit more worried about Synkarin's safety honestly.) Lynching you now solves a mystery we are all wondering, it just does so sooner rather than later.
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Hey, it's whatever. I've shared my reasoning, I've defended myself, I know I'm not scum, I know I'll be vindicated by the reveal when I'm eliminated, I know you guys have no way of trusting my word. Vote how you think you need to vote.
I don't really have anything to add, but there were 12 scientists when we began and we're down to 11. I don't want to fire Tarkenton, but if we can't get the final vote, I'll give it.
I'm not sure that the flavour text being a calm, civil conversation really makes you any more innocent. I mean flavour-wise Teller wasn't assassinated, just dismissed from the project to set up a new lab, but this was still a firing of one of the strongest supporters of the atomic project.
Though it is curious that Synkarin saw it differently, and raises the question of just how ambiguous the information we get from the flavour text is?
Which leads into me not being sure at all of how to interpret @Tremula's reveal. Doesn't sound like a doctor's protection, or a roleblocking, and hard to see the strongly-worded note as an arsonist's prep. Perhaps a jailing, or as she mentioned might just be NK-immune?
But I'm still struggling with the idea that you thought a random vig kill on night 1 was a good idea, especially after we voted no lynch on Day 1. While absolutely there is a chance that mafia were among those 'no lynchers,' the no lynch on day 1 is essentially town saying 'no to random killings.' I'm agreed with Synkarin, something there is fishy.
I'll give this Day a bit longer to see if any other leads come up, but if still nothing by tomorrow morning, I'll add my vote to Tark's.
I've stated my reasons. No one was going to claim any night information since a day two reveal is typically not optimal. See the surprise at Synkarin claiming tracker. We would have been where we were at, day one, except with a likely chance that the mafia would have taken one of us out. It was a gamble, like I said, based on having watched prior games on these forums that didn't pay out. If I could take it back I would. As is, voting for me is a waste. It won't kill me.
As is, voting for me is a waste. It won't kill me.
Might have been useful to state this earlier? Seems like a last ditch "don't lynch me" now.
But if you're a vig and you're lynchproof then I see no reason not to leave my vote on you. Just means you're validated in your claim and you're safe, yeah?
"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
Because it's a one off thing, and would you have believed me anyways? I figure odds are good I get lynched, then I get night killed. Got anyone you feel like having me take with me?
As you should be. About me and everyone else in the game. Nothing bad will happen to someone if they lunch me. Other than that feeling of shame that they screwed up. If I am lynched and killed in the night, make sure you examine vote patterns.
Hmm well I think maybe Tarkenton is a safe lynch then? Either he will be immune to it and his claim valid (and hopefully someone will keep him safe during the night) or we'll catch scum or serial killer.
"'Cause the fighting don't stop till I walk in." -Synkarin's Lament.
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Right but what's the value in that when the question is if he's being honest about being a vigilante or scum. He could be honest about the immunity and that tells us nothing in regards to the important question.
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"Oh yeah, you're a naughty mayor, aren't you? Misfile that Form MA631-D. Comptroller Shevat's got a nice gemstone disc for you, but yer gonna have to beg for it."
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Oh, that's a point. He could have an immunity regardless of alignment.
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Right that's why I'm trying to figure out the goal here, I don't get what it is yet.
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Something to consider, beyond the fact that you're really wasting your time right now, is that I was capable of having Teller escorted away by my subordinates after our conversation. Sadly, I can't just copy it here word for word, but there was not any broken glass involved in the message I got. We had a calm, civil conversation, and he was set up with his new lab in California.
Of course, what Silvanus provided me with versus what he provided Synkarin with is completely up in the air. And there's one other thing to take into consideration to not lynch. Assume I'm not lynched, and the scum come for me, because hey, vigs can disrupt their plans. They'll solve your problem neatly, eliminating me and proving I am who I said I am. I'll hold off on firing anyone else prematurely, you hold off on lynching me. Deal?
ArcanisNobody - Tremula (1)Ixion tells you, "// I don't think anyone else had a clue, amazing form."
Though it is curious that Synkarin saw it differently, and raises the question of just how ambiguous the information we get from the flavour text is?
Which leads into me not being sure at all of how to interpret @Tremula's reveal. Doesn't sound like a doctor's protection, or a roleblocking, and hard to see the strongly-worded note as an arsonist's prep. Perhaps a jailing, or as she mentioned might just be NK-immune?
But I'm still struggling with the idea that you thought a random vig kill on night 1 was a good idea, especially after we voted no lynch on Day 1. While absolutely there is a chance that mafia were among those 'no lynchers,' the no lynch on day 1 is essentially town saying 'no to random killings.' I'm agreed with Synkarin, something there is fishy.
I'll give this Day a bit longer to see if any other leads come up, but if still nothing by tomorrow morning, I'll add my vote to Tark's.
But are you saying you're lynch proof now too?
Ixion tells you, "// I don't think anyone else had a clue, amazing form."