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Epic Quest Griefing
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Shit happens; keep on trucking. Most, if not all Hallifaxians will just leave you alone because of distaste for reciprocation; there's generally a gentleman's agreement about not fucking with the Hand quest if you just ask about it, or ask someone to stop (this was difficult to do with Elodres, since he wasn't a Gaudi).
EDIT: Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if you caught some flak over the Kingmaker quest. Shit has consequences, yo.
EDIT 2: Taunting people with corpses of the Mesa Compound/Kl'aet is probably not going to win you any favours.
Gaudiguch has no meaningful targets to attack, and you ran constantly from attacks so the next only meaningful method of attack is to see that you're doing the epic and disrupt it.
It should also be noted that when trying to kill you for you killing Thoril, you handed Davos corpses of a Taroch, a meaningful family in Hallifax.
This also isn't a matter of oh you killed some random mob or random tree, but now you're being griefed for it! No, Kingmaker is a quest that can only be done in a great while and losing it now means we've lost it until Magnagora decides to kill Ethildora or we break alliance with Celest. That has to be considered when carrying out these actions because it will certainly be considered in the reaction that people have to it.
Chopping trees is also a source of stress for Serenwilde. They have to deal with it and the threat of it all the time. If they ever piss anyone off, any novice can come in and chop their trees and there is almost nothing they can do about it so they have to come down hard on tree choppers to prevent it from happening in the future.
The escalation of conflict has been a result of your continued aggression against organizations in pursuit of honours quests. You have to expect reciprocity for that and if you want to avoid it, you have to engage them in character to try to make right what you did.
TL;DR: Actions have consequences, nobody plays the game in a bubble
2015/12/09 23:54:29 - Pejat drained 2000000 power to raise Davos as a Vernal Ascendant.
You use 80,000,000 of your divine essence. You gain BeauteousThought as a supernumerary power.
There are several ways to get lumber that don't involve chopping trees in Serenwilde - two I can think of offhand that don't involve chopping trees anywhere, including neutral territory.
Quest lines are not evidence of wrongdoing. They are only evidence of opportunism.
You are now harping on someone who has admitted publicly that they're not up to having this fight with you. You look like a bully.
Stop it.
Vive l'apostrophe!
I did call for the deaths of all those involved, as a way of demonstrating that Eodh dying once was no longer a meaningful resolution. I knew that it would never happen particularly when I included Gero in that list (with whom I had a pleasant conversation following my death). What I actually was hoping to negotiate was Thoril being crowned again. Eodh decided to disengage and go post on forums instead.
Eodh ran from conflict and called in friends when there was a reasonable claim to his death. I am not saying that it's unreasonable to run from conflict, but you have to expect it will move to other arenas. What other means is there available to impress upon him the seriousness of his action?
This was not Rivius and Davos trying to make anyone's life hell. It was simply reaction to attacks against our organizations with targetted attacks against the individual that perpetrated those crimes. If it had been anyone else working on that quest, there would have been no question that it was off limits.
I am not proud or glad that Eodh has taken this so seriously in his real life. However, if you start conflict quests with organizations, you have to expect reprisal. Similarly, I am sure that my attacks on Eodh will bring consequences to myself. I am willing to accept that without getting upset or leaving the game because I know that my actions warrant reprisal.
This is the last thing I have to say on this matter. To Eodh, Get some sleep. The game will seem less important and this conflict inconsequential in the face of a well rested day.
2015/12/09 23:54:29 - Pejat drained 2000000 power to raise Davos as a Vernal Ascendant.
You use 80,000,000 of your divine essence. You gain BeauteousThought as a supernumerary power.
In regards to chopping an Elder, though; if someone has done so, and if said someone threatened to do more, said someone should indeed not be surprised if their endeavours are messed with. You are screwing them out of their time to regrow and defend them while regrowing, so they are completely justified in messing about with your time. It is far healthier for them to do it to you than to random uninvolved orgmates of yours.
That said, Hallifax using it as part of their reasoning seems like thinly veiled justification (we want to mess with you, and hey, we know you did this thing so it is also part of our rarghrage), based on the comments thus far.
I missed Eodh saying it was okay, I've only seen a lot of posts by him complaining about epic quest griefing. I may have missed something while reading on my phone, but he's definitely been complaining about the Epic Quest aspect, and thus my responses are in regards to the complaints that he himself is making.
You are missing the relevant part where he was still in good spirits about things and not ready to qq the game over certain things said by people.