Discrimination in Lusternia

Sidd

Rivius said:

Um, no. He stated quite plainly "Marriage is between a man and a woman", which is a belief that has no bearing anywhere in the world of Lusternia. Same-sex marriages had been happening since time immemorial. This is what Eventru was trying to get across. It's not really that complicated, and we've been here long enough to know this is the standing on such views.

Eventru said:

I'm simply reiterating what has already been stated. Homophobia does not exist in Lusternia, in any sense. Expression of those views in-game can and will be treated on par to any other OOCness, ie up to and including muting, loss of channels, etc. It's not even a possibility - it just doesn't. Sorry to disappoint! (It's a well known fact Eventru and Lyreth were the first married couple anyways, heteros are completely the abnormal ones...)

These were quotes from the Character Secrets thread.

I feel like the bolded is a lot more of a far reaching statement than just marriage. It's nice for Rivius/Raezon to sweep it under the rug, and try to make it seem like he was just refering to 'marriage' but it's a pretty big deal when an admin makes a direct statement on the subject, even going so far as to say you will be punished for it. 

I'd like some clarification on what kind of discrimination is allowed and is not allowed ICly. Seamus shouted just yesterday that Eileen shouldn't be Queen because she's a woman. Mag is super racist against merian/elfen, but if I say something to the Glomazons, I'll be muted? 

As an aside, Sidd is not and has never been homophobic, I'm a proponent of gay marriage and don't want to come across as anything else. It just seems a bit off to me that other forms are A-OK and this one is not.  

Raezon

Please review HELP LANGUAGERULES, which summarizes our policy regarding discriminatory speech. Below is a relevant snippet. If you need further clarification, please feel free to ISSUE ME.

"The rules for using language in Lusternia are simple. Do not inflict overly

obscene language on people who you do not _know_ are willing to hear it, and do

not use discriminatory language (racist, homophobic, sexist, etc) AT ALL."

Admin punishment is an OOC event, and we do not often engage in policing of roleplay. However, as languagerules states, we have a very low tolerance for offensive comments of a racist, homophobic, etc nature. Discriminatory comments which are also (often highly) offensive (including some key words which I'm sure you can think up on your own) are handled very harshly, whether meant to be IC or not. We want the game to be as inclusive and friendly to all people as possible.

If your comments don't fall under the umbrella of HELP LANGUAGERULES, you will be fine, and its honestly been pretty hard historically to cross a line where we need to be involved, considering how many people play lusternia and the often tense situations and subjects which we include in the game. We sometimes include mature subjects, like the 'racism' between character races. 

However, there are some key differences: the races were once people. I still hold, for example, a very low IC opinion of the gods which splintered into the shards you play now, and it is a natural and well-developed idea that I still harbor some of those hatreds, at least on a personal level. Fain is famous in part for his opinions on the shards of Meridian, for example. You'll notice that the racism you see in the game is not about 'color', or the traditional ways which racism has often exhibited itself in the real world. The comments in the other thread were expressing that this is a different beast in RP, because it has a very different basis than homophobia, for example, which would seem to have an entirely OOC source, given the fates determination of how relationships can work.