Okay, fair. But only you and other herbalists get them. Others have to buy them. With how the price of salt skyrocketed (we don't use salt that much for cooking, just that some of my recent designs use them), and how we use spices for pretty much any food... I'm scared of the aether traders using it all up and herbalists controlling the supply of spices like some sort of Spice Mafia (a bit exaggerated, I know, but you get the picture)
You are startled as a lemon meringue pie bounces harmlessly off you after being thrown at you by Mysrai.
Okay, fair. But only you and other herbalists get them. Others have to buy them. With how the price of salt skyrocketed (we don't use salt that much for cooking, just that some of my recent designs use them), and how we use spices for pretty much any food... I'm scared of the aether traders using it all up and herbalists controlling the supply of spices like some sort of Spice Mafia (a bit exaggerated, I know, but you get the picture)
I mean, this is how all fail comms work at the end of the day, the same is ultimately true of all herbs and herbs are far more necessary for a larger variety of skills than just cooking.
I guess there are many more places to harvest than to get gems?
Exactly this, especially since the change to dormancy months. Try turning PLANTS ON and just walk all over places with natural terrain, see how much is out there.
I dabbled in herbs when I flexed in bard just to try it out, and to get myself more colewort. I think in about half an hour I had more than 100 spices harvested as well.
Herbs is also super boring and I think the general lack of interested herbalists means there's just a -lot- out there for anyone who wants to put in the time for it.
It also feels like the chance to proc salt is distinctly undertuned relative to other failure comms, and that might just be perception bias. But even before the introduction to aethertraders, there was scarcely any salt in the aetherplex (just lots of magical salt in kegs), so I think that is telling.
I don't want to keep it as salt. The salt situation is pretty bad. I just don't trust that the spices solution will turn out well (although I will concede that it's better than salt)
No comm usage/ all failure comms/ easily procurable comms are the best idea imo
You are startled as a lemon meringue pie bounces harmlessly off you after being thrown at you by Mysrai.
A long time back, herbalists needed to constantly replant in order to keep areas alive. Envoy reports have reduced that considerably. Replanting will maximize your herb accrual if you really need a ton, but if you are just trying to get a few hundred of each herb you will probably not have much of an issue. Each room has 60 plants max (or 120 if blessed by the Nature domoth, which is why there is so much sparkleberry around). Without gloves, harvesting balance is 2s. Gloves halve that. The chance of spices may be lower but you have so many more chances that you end up with a lot of the stuff.
I really don't think spices will ever be in the salt-boat, which is why I would like to see them added as an option; it would be nice for them to have more use. Preferably taking a smaller step to alleviate the issue without revamping it totally. If I am wrong and spice prices soar enormously, then clearly it would be time to look into more drastic measures (such as the elimination of comm usage entirely). At least, that is how I am looking at it.
But how many days will that take? I would be down with it just to see if spices price will skyrocket or not, if, if it did skyrocket, then immediately it will be changed to no comm usage. But realistically, it won't and it will take more days of discussion again.
You are startled as a lemon meringue pie bounces harmlessly off you after being thrown at you by Mysrai.
I guess why this topic is my hill to die on is because I expressed the opinion that the new aether trading system has led to soaring of salt prices to the point where it's affecting cooks, and, of all the solutions proposed, the one the admin responded to is to just use another cooking comm in place of salt. Cooking isn't a profession that brings tons of profit like herbalism or alchemy does, I just took it because it's fun. But I fear that the thing I enjoy doing most ingame will just become impossible/difficult to do. It probably seems silly and inconsequential to everyone else, but that's just how I feel.
You are startled as a lemon meringue pie bounces harmlessly off you after being thrown at you by Mysrai.
tbh, you don't even necessarily need to implement it >_>
Let's be honest, if Estarra just confirmed an intention to implement the change you'd immediately start seeing the impact it would have on the market because people would start repricing/reselling things and stockpiling in preparation.
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Salt/Sulfur is a 5% chance per gemcut.
I dabbled in herbs when I flexed in bard just to try it out, and to get myself more colewort. I think in about half an hour I had more than 100 spices harvested as well.
Herbs is also super boring and I think the general lack of interested herbalists means there's just a -lot- out there for anyone who wants to put in the time for it.
It also feels like the chance to proc salt is distinctly undertuned relative to other failure comms, and that might just be perception bias. But even before the introduction to aethertraders, there was scarcely any salt in the aetherplex (just lots of magical salt in kegs), so I think that is telling.
No comm usage/ all failure comms/ easily procurable comms are the best idea imo
Let's be honest, if Estarra just confirmed an intention to implement the change you'd immediately start seeing the impact it would have on the market because people would start repricing/reselling things and stockpiling in preparation.