Changeling Cameo Changes

Orventa

Sorry, but on this one I have to protest.

o Changeling Cameo now requires masochism to use so it cannot act as a

   full HME heal in combat.

I don't care how 'low' masochism is in discipline. It's a combat skill, that I don't need or use. And now I suddenly have to invest in something because some combatants do stupid things.

And people don't seem to get it when I say don't do this thing or please consider other players, 'oh you don't matter you're a noncom' well, it affects us and you have to consider us as part of the playerbase too.

Ianir

Orventa said:

Sorry, but on this one I have to protest.

o Changeling Cameo now requires masochism to use so it cannot act as a

   full HME heal in combat.

I don't care how 'low' masochism is in discipline. It's a combat skill, that I don't need or use. And now I suddenly have to invest in something because some combatants do stupid things.

And people don't seem to get it when I say don't do this thing or please consider other players, 'oh you don't matter you're a noncom' well, it affects us and you have to consider us as part of the playerbase too.

The timer is tracked regardless of whether or not you have the skill. I appreciate your protest, but this doesn't change anything other than 'you cannot change race within 60 seconds of being attacked'.

Shaddus

Idea: put masochism at 0% inept. Problem solved. 

Ianir

Shaddus said:

Idea: put masochism at 0% inept. Problem solved. 

Let me rephrase the changelog to prevent further confusion:

o If you are attacked within the last 60 seconds, you cannot use the cameo. After that 60 seconds pass, you can use the cameo. I use a hidden masochism timer to do this, which fires regardless of whether or not you have the skill.

I hope this ends all further complaints or arguments about this one. I will make sure to write my changelogs to be more descriptive in the future.

Orventa

That's fine then, though perhaps might need to be worded better. Thank you for your clarification @Ianir

Edit: ^you typed faster than I did, this was in response to your first reply

Ianir

EDIT: Scrubbed. Doesn't need to be said. - Ianir

Orventa

Ianir said:

EDIT: Scrubbed. Doesn't need to be said. - Ianir

Ianir it wasn't directed at you! Never. More other players who have said so to me in the past and just recently in the last hour. It's them, we're butting heads.

All my respect and love for everything that you've done so far and continue to do.

Fyler

Ironically, a combatant could have explained to you how the masochism timer works.

Versalean

Fyler said:

Ironically, I combatant could have explained to you how the masochism timer works.

@Ianir - NOW can I have that LOL button?

Shaddus

Fyler said:

Ironically, a combatant could have explained to you how the masochism timer works.

Ironically, you've missed the point that she misunderstood the changelog and thought that you had to actually have the Masochism skill to be able to use her cameo, as opposed to "having masochism".

Enyalida

Yeah. It was a combatant that pointed out that "Hey, I know it says "Have masochism", but have you considered that "have masochism" is just a short hand for "must be able to be masochistic", aka not in combat?" 

That exact phrase (have masochism) is super ultra common and self-explanatory to anyone who spends time talking about envoy reports and game balance, and probably WAAAAY less common for anyone else, hence the confusion. Having masochism has a specific meaning that doesn't necessarily match up to the general meaning of those two words strung together. 

Maligorn

While we're talking about masochism, why're we allowed to drink poisons w/o maschosm?

Fyler

Shaddus said:

Fyler said:

Ironically, a combatant could have explained to you how the masochism timer works.

Ironically, you've missed the point that she misunderstood the changelog and thought that you had to actually have the Masochism skill to be able to use her cameo, as opposed to "having masochism".

You guys get so serious, I was just chuckling at the combatant related anger when combatants probably could have clarified this for her pretty easily. 

I was amused is all.

Orventa

I think it's ok to close the thread now, case closed.