Shopkeeping oddities

Daraius

So when I drop things in the stockroom in my prime shop, they're unpriced and I have to go through and put everything in bins and price them. But when I drop things in the stockroom in the manse shop, if they've been sold before, they automatically go to their previous bin and price point.

Is this just a feature of manse shops, or an artifact at work, or am I just doing something wrong at the prime shop? I'd love it if all my cups and bottles would sort themselves.

Ssaliss

New bottles that have never been in your shop (as in, that specific bottle, not that design) will need to be repriced, yes. If you move a bottle from your manse shop to your prime shop (or vice versa) you won't have to reprice it though (as long as you want it in the same bin at the same price, of course).

Ssaliss

I think that's what they always do to someone with a discount (probably to tell them "Hey, you've got a discount"). As for the second... Best I can guess would be a special manse dweller. They can appear outside manses if they're shopkeepers (which cost 250cr extra), so it might be possible to have it set to be a shop dweller (this would definitely be a question for the admins though!). As a standard thing, though... Not that I've ever heard of.

Xenthos

Daraius said:

"The shop attendant smiles warmly, showing that you are especially welcome."

I guess this line has something to do with the shop policies you set for certain groups, but is there any other way to change it? I don't want my shop attendant smiling so damn much.

Also, is there a way to get an actual shop attendant?

You can buy an NPC shopkeeper which would kind of work as an attendant (people can buy from it directly, and you can even park it elsewhere so that they could, for example, buy goods from your shop directly from your Nexus).

To make the smiling line go away, you would need to remove the positive policies for the individual in question (if you have a 10% discount for members of Hallifax, it will smile at everyone who is a member of Hallifax).  They will do a "frowning" line at anyone who they charge more to.

What you can do is set policies so that the base price is your "discounted" price, and then put policies on to charge others more based on whatever criteria you wish to use.  It will replace the smiling with a fair bit of frowning, but only for the people you don't care about enough to give the fully discounted rate.

Ssaliss

For me, it always retains its price/bin if it's been for sale before, whether or not it's a manse shop or a prime shop, as long as that specific object has been priced/binned before. Hmm...

Ssaliss

Minor correction: Once sold, they are cleared of price/bin, but not if just picked up.

Belibi

I pick up a keg of stuff, bring it to alembic to refill, drop it again and it retains it's price. In my prime shop. Not sure if that's what you mean

Arimisia

new items should never be auto prices for you. but if it is an item that was previously priced, as said before like a keg, no matter what shop it gets dropped in later it will retain the price and bin it was previously priced at. Things put into a shops rift is a bit different. even if it sells out, that price seems to be stored, soon as you stock more of that item it will auto price back to what you previously had it.

Daraius

Could it be that sorcelglass items work differently?

Well no, because when I moved some bottles from one shop to the other for storage, they still showed up. Hm. I just need to do some more controlled experiments. Thanks for the input so far.

Siam

Is it a sorcelglass scroll or a vial that has been applied a scroll on?

Daraius

They're all premade teacups and bottles. There's a finite number of designs I use, and I usually add more of each before they sell out, but I'm pretty sure they don't show up in WARES unless I go through and price them again.

I could definitely be wrong, though. I'll play around with it this evening.

Daraius

"The shop attendant smiles warmly, showing that you are especially welcome."

I guess this line has something to do with the shop policies you set for certain groups, but is there any other way to change it? I don't want my shop attendant smiling so damn much.

Also, is there a way to get an actual shop attendant?

Daraius

Say I get a shopkeeping manse dweller and station him out in the world. Does he have the same shop policies as my manse shop?

Xenthos

Daraius said:

Say I get a shopkeeping manse dweller and station him out in the world. Does he have the same shop policies as my manse shop?

He should.  It is intended to be an extension of your shop.

Shaddus

Make sure you approach your lovable chancellor about rules pertaining to shop dwellers roaming the city >.>

Daraius

Don't worry, my plan won't work as envisioned.