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@Eodh it may depend but I've always seen the councils appearing to function as equals.What I've experienced and what I've heard has reinf…Regarding the whole... Glomdoring/Serenwilde situation... it's a problem, but for me the bigger problem is that it's so stupidly difficult to argue against.
in Alliances Comment by Saran October 2015(Quote)
Oh yeah, I super don't trust most leaders, but the main reason is because the majority of any council don't actually represent me. At any given time there are seven people on the Seren council, only two I get to vote for a…(Quote) In a way this is part of my issue with the framing around lynching. The constant repetition that we shouldn't lynch without proof, to me, leads to this mindset that anyone lynching is probably scum. When in reality, the more com…Perhaps also for @Kiradawea, I also feel like half the game isn't really playing, or only barely so.Which makes much of this feel a …Your assessment relies on everyone believing what she has said is the truth, in reality she hasn't actually given us anything that she couldn't have faked.You know your role but no one else does, the only thing I know for cert…@Synkarin, the name list was public as far as I was aware, anything else is something that can potentially impact the game. As Celina was enjoying reminding…Which I'd point out in a theme game, this could be fairly close to roleclaiming.
I think Celina is the better option, but if my "paranoia" is correct. Well... Synkarin just asked everyone in the game to provide a partial roleclaim that ma…@Synkarin
If everything Celina has said is falsified then we start looking at how she was interacting with people and how people interacted with her. …@Azureus such a consensus is generally dangerous.
For example, what actually makes you trust Luce? If you trust him because he protected Celina, …As Luce said there is also the jailer but typically I believe the person knows that such has happened to them.
@Synkarin not really, there are two roles.
Ascetic which cannot be targeted by night actions other than kills. (Reflexive roleblocking)
Bull…@Tarkenton: Interestingly, it's also a common scum strategy to direct attention to the quiet people in the game.@Celina please remember, you're also the person who tried to convince the town it was a bad idea to try and lynch someone because there might be a power that …(Quote)VOTE: CelinaYou are correct such powers are not unexpected, and as you are apparently aware of this it's a little odd to me that you wouldn't have suggested such a role until …Oh, as a point. We also don't know if the mafia have tried to hit someone who is immune to night kills(bulletproof/commuter), if they are actually trying to kill and aren't converting of course.If they were blocked one ni…Synkarin had no visitors and did not act.
@Celina I assume that person targeted themselves and sent it to you?
Another option is that the mafia might be functioning like a cult, rather than killing each night they're converting.
@Taevyn here's mine
Trailing shards of prismatic rainbows, the evanescent form of a sinuous dream phoenix lingers here, woven wings of vine-like br…Countless minuscule motes from the dream realm have coalesced across the form of this sinuous dream phoenix, who moves with the instinctive grace of the supernatural. Her plumage trails off in delicate wisps of light that wink out …No @Celina, she implied she knew what the doctor did last night. You fairly quickly revealed that she was the doctor. Technically your "vision" could simply b…
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This issue with this argument is that if Celina is scum then she has the capacity to identify town night roles, she also has a decent chance of identifying the valuable roles in the town and by allowing her another n…@Synkarin ah but that's the beauty of being in the mafia, you don need to lead the charge. You just need to indicate a direction and the rest of the mafia c…@Luce yeah, the mafia defending a town member (because they know who they are) is a super common tactic to deflect attention.
Also as you've taken th…@Synkarin you're right, people aren't following her lead, you have a group following yours.
Also I do note that when people found out I had a nig…Of course, the possibility that Celina knows Riluna's role because Celina is an investigator on the mafia's side also exists.This would mean that Celina investigated Riluna, took the information I provided and made the assumpti…(Quote)One thing that should be noted, I suppose.If Celina is telling the truth (she has zero reason to not claim a night power, and as a note her claim is the power mine is a variant of) then sh…(Quote) Nope, it tells me how many others used night powers (it was nicely clarified thanks @Kiradawea) along with advising if the t…Well then, if it will appease the puppet master Synkarin and let me go to sleep without having to worry about his minions killing me without passing on information to the townMy attitude is mostly based on the fact that... I've spent eight hours at work today waiting for the votes to build up, I'm about to go to bed now and have rather valid concerns about your mafia friends jumping on your lynch wagon to kill me. I…(c) Iron Realms Entertainment 2012.