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Re: Ministry of Research Part II
Uilani said:Nicely written proposal, explains the problem and proposes a solution.
The problem, in summary, appears to be threefold:
1) Absent GMs endanger Research Projects.
2) Trying out a different Research Path is very costly.
3) Inability of checking status of Guild Research by anyone but the Guild.
I'll go through each of those one by one.
1) The Research privilege can be invested into Guild ranks, meaning more people than just the Guildmaster can manage Research Projects. This has been added so that the whole responsibility does not rest just on the GM, especially should there be absences.
2) Switching research is costly, that is true. That is by design because of the powers it bestows in return. Introducing a whole new way to circumvent the cost is, essentially, agreeing that the cost is too high. However, we believe the cost is fair for the powers. While we are not opposed to the idea of temporary research, perhaps just for a single power, we do not believe it is needed right this moment. The costs are steep, but it is a research project and an opportunity for a Guild to rally, save up, and make a proper project out of it.
3) This could certainly be improved, someone should likely be able to have an overview of research taking place on the whole. Just this alone is insufficient to justify a Research Ministry right now, but such a power could be given to the CL. No names for the projects, as some are very secretive, but a general overview could be done.
We'll keep this in mind as we work!
Hi @Uilani
Just revisiting this post because now that Lusternia is on legacy and few people around, keeping full control of the research projects within the guild can prove to be more difficult and challenging that it was before. Perhaps we can transfer the management to the city now with the corresponding Ministry?
Qoivhae
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Re: Updates Post #2: Legacy Roadmap
I'm a little confused that guilds aren't mentioned after also seeing the below, though perhaps it's in "other".
I very much agree with the assessment that this sort of thing is what's needed because it feels like the roleplay and lore of Lusternia are generally at the top of everyone's list of what makes Lusternia great. This stuff was happening when guilds were flourishing, so it makes sense to me that it's happening less when guilds struggle. It also lines up with the thing I've noticed, the game that Lusternia was seems to be the game that appeals to my friends who love TTRPGs, the people who want to get into roleplay groups but timing and schedules are a pain, they're interested when it's stories about things like Seren performing the ritual during the Li'varili event even before I mentioned admin involvement and they thought we were just players roleplaying.
I hope there is consideration for why this sort of thing isn't happening as much because players were deciding to do this in the past. After all, there will be reasons whether or not people are conscious of it.
I guess as I was one of the players that was doing this. My experience was I taught the newbies in my guild, in part, so that I could rank up within my guild because that felt good and later as a guild leader to help my guild continue to grow. I taught players about the history and lore of the org and guild again both as part of my enjoyment but also as a natural part of the other player ranking up within the guild because they cared about that.Uilani, the Loom Mistress says, "The request is: please really engage any newbies and returnees you see. Especially the newbies because newbie retention has long been an issue. And part of it is something we can try to fix up with better intro, guides, tasks, quests, etc, but you all are the main reason newbies stay. None of us here can engage a newbie nonstop individually, or we'd never get anything else done. Newbies stay for the players, not the admin. And engaging newbies often comes down to answering a few questions and leaving them be, or powerlevelling them and then leaving them be. Neither of which truly engages them or lets them know what to do next. Remember the days of sitting down with a newbie and teaching them their first skills, about their org's history and roleplay, about their guild? That is what we really need. And I know it takes forever and many of you have been here for years so doing this for the 300th time with no guarantee the newbie will still is, frankly, a huge investment with no return. But it's still really needed and we will have been seeing many newbies since the announcement."
I very much agree with the assessment that this sort of thing is what's needed because it feels like the roleplay and lore of Lusternia are generally at the top of everyone's list of what makes Lusternia great. This stuff was happening when guilds were flourishing, so it makes sense to me that it's happening less when guilds struggle. It also lines up with the thing I've noticed, the game that Lusternia was seems to be the game that appeals to my friends who love TTRPGs, the people who want to get into roleplay groups but timing and schedules are a pain, they're interested when it's stories about things like Seren performing the ritual during the Li'varili event even before I mentioned admin involvement and they thought we were just players roleplaying.
I hope there is consideration for why this sort of thing isn't happening as much because players were deciding to do this in the past. After all, there will be reasons whether or not people are conscious of it.
Saran
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Talk back and nexus issues
I want you to know that lusternia is my favorite game and I have no plans to give it up. Lusternia is the only game that stimulates my introspective side. But I have a few issues. Talk back back will only read game output if I scroll through the app window to find it. Only tiny samplles of guild and collegium help scroll show in the output buffer, making it nearly impossible to complete my tasks. To make matters worse, my reaction time is slowed by having to the command prompt after checking the output buffer. I would love to hear from blind android users to learn if this is fixable, hopefully soon, before I start roleplaying.
Kivydan
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Re: Lusternian Divine AMA
Some people do follow Morgfyre knowing full well he's going to eventually eat them.
Kalikai
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Re: Grimkeep: Season 2
A few things I wanted to address.
1. I think one important item to be careful of is over engineering things to make Grimkeep a worse experience. It would be nice to keep the old Grimkeep as classic so the option is there for it if the changes don’t stick. Even rewards could be tuned so that it’s not as enticing as season 2, but I worry about changes leaving it in a state that it’s not really fun/viable.
2. Regarding teleporting out and leaving/reentering. I think the most elegant solution to this is a timer between leaving and coming out. That way somebody can leave in a hurry. But there is a cost in that they can’t just renter right away.
3. Camping at the entrance as the most viable strategy. This is a tough one to address but I think potentially objectives could help with this (problem is this is also something that could be a bigger pain point than fun addition). Another possibility is for certain rooms to have buffs or debuffs creating a strategy of wanting to find the optimal spot for a particular run.
4. Making teleporting in and changing the optimal position from being the entrance creates the possibility of it being too difficult to return to a run and rejoin the group. There would need to be some mechanism to return to the group. Be it a staging room that won’t have aggro mobs or otherwise.
5. The complaint about grimkeep keeping other players from getting interactions is a tricky one. The players aren’t on prime. And often people will leave to do another activity that appeals to them more. I think it’s wrong to assume if they weren’t in grimkeep they would be there for you to interact with. It’s entirely plausible that if they weren’t in grimkeep they simply wouldn’t be playing at all. Taking away options for people to do to somehow encourage activity is counterproductive to population issues.
1. I think one important item to be careful of is over engineering things to make Grimkeep a worse experience. It would be nice to keep the old Grimkeep as classic so the option is there for it if the changes don’t stick. Even rewards could be tuned so that it’s not as enticing as season 2, but I worry about changes leaving it in a state that it’s not really fun/viable.
2. Regarding teleporting out and leaving/reentering. I think the most elegant solution to this is a timer between leaving and coming out. That way somebody can leave in a hurry. But there is a cost in that they can’t just renter right away.
3. Camping at the entrance as the most viable strategy. This is a tough one to address but I think potentially objectives could help with this (problem is this is also something that could be a bigger pain point than fun addition). Another possibility is for certain rooms to have buffs or debuffs creating a strategy of wanting to find the optimal spot for a particular run.
4. Making teleporting in and changing the optimal position from being the entrance creates the possibility of it being too difficult to return to a run and rejoin the group. There would need to be some mechanism to return to the group. Be it a staging room that won’t have aggro mobs or otherwise.
5. The complaint about grimkeep keeping other players from getting interactions is a tricky one. The players aren’t on prime. And often people will leave to do another activity that appeals to them more. I think it’s wrong to assume if they weren’t in grimkeep they would be there for you to interact with. It’s entirely plausible that if they weren’t in grimkeep they simply wouldn’t be playing at all. Taking away options for people to do to somehow encourage activity is counterproductive to population issues.
Uzriel
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Re: Grimkeep: Season 2
I know you said no to new endzone, but I really do believe that any changes should be applied to a new area rather than Grimkeep.
I personally also disagree with the idea the gatecamping is boring, but that could be an unpopular opinion.That said, the problems are:
1) There is no reason to move because mobs are too strong otherwise. They have too much health/resists that you can't kill them fast enough.
2) The area is big enough to affect mob tracking - the gate is far enough away from the otherside that staying at the gate controls how fast the mobs come to you. At least as far as I have been told. I'm not sure how true this actually is. it sure as feels like mobs will get stuck on the other side and not come to the other side until they are 'within' range.
2) The area is big enough to affect mob tracking - the gate is far enough away from the otherside that staying at the gate controls how fast the mobs come to you. At least as far as I have been told. I'm not sure how true this actually is. it sure as feels like mobs will get stuck on the other side and not come to the other side until they are 'within' range.
3) Right now, the Queen boss isn't really worth it to fight because she is
even stronger, has instant kills, and you basically have to do it at the
very start of the run or the mobs will quickly overwhelm you. You basically can kill her or do a proper run, but not both.
So there are a few ideas:
Adjust mob strength, making them a bit weaker but probably increasing spawn rate. This could encourage people to move around as things spawn. I know this probably will take the most balancing and quick updates to the system (this idea probably isn't something that can wait months between adjustments)
Encourage moving around. Two ways this could be done: 1) every so often check that the group has moved x rooms away and give some sort of essence bonus. 2) Special bonus/Elite mobs that spawn and stay in a specific room. This mob could give a couple million essence or a similar boost. It would need to be high enough of an reward to make people go to it, and likely require the above adjusting idea as well, else people won't do it if they can't kill the thing fast enough.
Ayisdra
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Re: You guys really need to post more logs (and discuss them for the purpose of enhancing the game)
Name another combination which provides the means for a mana drain to do ~18.7% maxmana on a 3 second balance with 0 power investment, I'll wait.
Yarith
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Re: Lusternian Divine AMA
My favorite memory so far? I live on your (players, collectively) praise. I am a sucker for it. Anytime I can make a difference, or do something cool that makes you want to tell everyone, that is what I like. I've had a few, and I am thankful for them.Esei said:What's your favorite memory of being a god, so far? Can be crushing a particularly pesky bug, rp with your order (or org, or even a totally random person you didn't expect to show up in your fulcrux, etc), rp you got while possessing a mob, or anything you can think of. Feel free to redact if need be!Alternatively, what's your godrole's favorite beverage?
Manteekan's favorite beverage is the essence of other Elders/Soulless, duh.
The Voice of Mahalla was still inside of the Harbinger guild hall after the guild rework. I really wanted to put Her back out there for Reasons(TM). I also like tying things together, I guess you can say that "old school" way of releasing things related to whats going on from thee Estarra days. So, my release was related to other things going on at the same time.Ayisdra said:1. Why did you choose the release event that you did? Did you have any other ideas that you decided against for your release?2. What is your favorite way to describe a voice?3. Is there something you regret not doing as a mortal before you became an admin?4. What is something that surprised you when you first moved over to the admin side (that you can share)? What is something that still surprises you about being an admin (that you can share)?
I'm not sure I have a favorite way to describe a voice, honestly.
This might sound stupid, I regret not giving the admin team more credit, more of my patience. I was incredibly hard on these volunteers as a mortal. I was very vocal about things I was not happy about. I was passive aggressive at times.
Related to the above, how difficult it is to do this. It is, and continues to be one of the most challenging things to do. And not from a technical standpoint, necessarily. There are some things we 'joke' about - yes, family code is a bit spaghetti, and so changing or making improvements or whatever is technically difficult. I mean the kinds of decisions to make, how to make them, how best to spend my time. I was also never a mortal builder, coder, volunteer in any way so I had no idea how these systems work. How the sausage is made was quite surprising.
Re: Lusternian Divine AMA
Its a tremendously difficult balance.
On the one hand, I like spilling secrets. I want you to learn the things you're meant to, I want to slowly feed the plant of your existence like a drip sprinkler. But on the other hand, playing a Traitor role comes with additional rules you have to play by which dictate, to some extent, how I should react to things. I am Manteekan, the Nightmare and with that title comes a certain amount of fear (I hope).
So OOC, I really, really enjoy my interactions with folks and absolutely nobody should be afraid or apprehensive, because I do this all for you folks and I like to think I really am a good bean.
But IC I absolutely want to inspire the most amount of terror, unease, fear, or general icky feelings I possibly can (Some exceptions may apply).
So its a bit paradoxical, right?
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