Let's not get too sidetracked with goldsinks here though. I think it's better if another thread is started with goldsink ideas and let this one remain concerned with auctions
Hrm. If we're doing artifacts for gold, I personally think that the following would be a good idea to add.
Great Rune of Enchantment Great Rune of Glassworking a Great Rune of the Tobacconist
As those three are always useful, and especially the Glasswork rune may be one of those things you're unlikely to spend credits on, but can spend gold on.
A Drop of Extraspatial Aethersource A Dose of Relative Dimensional Liquefication Bubble of Popularity Dimensional Anomaly
Same as those above, but I don't find them to be as important to add to the auction as the three runes.
Besides those, I'd like to see some interesting utility artifacts such as.
Gaudy Glamrock Great Rune of (Influencing) Dimensional Needle Golden Paintbrush Great Rune of Spatial Expansion Master Sketch Seal Great Rune of Enchanted Focus Figurine Rune Silver Shovel Rune of Winter/Summer's Bane
And lastly, a few artifacts to really suck the gold out of the wealthy.
Pearl Ring Bloodstone Ring Sapphire Ring Ruby Ring Bar of Golden Soap Rune of Vitality/Meditation/Charming Manners
Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish on its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
My real problem with the concept of a gold auction is that it just constitutes a way to bypass the credit market for things that people would normally buy credits to purchase. Why bother having this mechanic anymore if this is how we are going to do things? All of my other concerns are really second to this notion. I don't think it's going to break the game, by any stretch of the imagination, I think it is just backwards to create ways to bypass long-standing mechanics for no other reason than that people don't like the current going rate on the market. Things that are not normally purchasable don't really cause a problem here because under normal conditions buying credits from the market still wouldn't get you this item.
This happening once a year or as the current situation, once in never, will hardly create a systemic problem.
It could be annoying to people who game the credit market and worry that the cost of credits will drop if people try to shore up their cash for such an auction.
I just don't see a problem in any of your concerns.
Yeah... This won't become "how we do things" just because we have one auction with gold. How many artifacts do you think are sold on a yearly basis? I have no clue, but a wild guesstimate into the wild air would say about a thousand. Could be off by a whole lot, of course, but let's go with that number.
Then, let's go with that there will be 25 gold auctions. I have no clue if this will be the final number, but it's the current amount of auctions, so let's go with that.
25 artifacts bought with gold among 1000 would constitute about... 2.5%. Yeah, that's pretty minimal, and won't even come close to "how we do things".
I noticed that so far the poisonist charm isn't doing too hot and I'm getting the feeling most people don't see it as being very valuable or desireable at this time. Is there a particular reason why there's only a 30% chance it shows a poison proc on another? Perhaps I can be convinced otherwise, but I don't think a 100% chance would be too OP.
Only real way to see how things are doing is to wait for the curtain-call. I doubt that most of the big spenders have weighed in yet. Things tend to jump up dramatically at the end.
That said, I too have no interest in a 30% chance.
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Cyndarinused Flamethrower! It was super effective.
Just as a note, I think Shikha is saying that the suggestion of a gold artifact auction is just a method for people with a lot of gold to buy artifacts at a discounted price..because no one is going to pay more than the credit value of an artifact in gold if they can just buy the credits and get the artifact.....rather than a legitimate way to remove excess gold from the market.
Namely because anyone with common sense should know one time, one winner gold auctions would do zilch to the gold/credit issue.
For fun, unique, RP/QoL artifacts I don't see a problem. The long list of very useful, influential artifacts being listed is kind of over the top. Hey, I'm all about getting discounted artifacts, but don't try to mask it with false justifications about the gold market or whatever. Who are we kidding.
And the end result is... **************************************************[ Current Auctions ]************************************************** Id Status Max/Min Title Winner Days Left ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 WON 750/ 750 Custom Ikon Xenthos 0 2 WON 250/ 250 Poisonists Charm Shinza 0 3 WON 255/ 255 Poisonists Charm Neraiche 0 4 WON 255/ 255 Poisonists Charm Sidd 0 5 WON 505/ 505 Magnifying Glass Ayisdra 0 6 WON 505/ 505 Magnifying Glass Dys 0 7 WON 450/ 450 Magnifying Glass Nihta 0 8 WON 75/ 75 Tattoo Goggles Ayisdra 0 9 WON 65/ 65 Tattoo Goggles Steingrim 0 10 WON 65/ 65 Tattoo Goggles Azula 0 11 WON 1510/1510 Boots of Shanth Skye 0 12 WON 305/ 305 Docking Bay Morbo 0 13 WON 300/ 300 Docking Bay Morshoth 0 14 WON 305/ 305 Docking Bay Munsia 0 15 WON 400/ 400 Clarramore's Worst Morbo 0 16 WON 405/ 405 Clarramore's Worst Silvanus 0 17 WON 400/ 400 Clarramore's Worst Morbo 0 18 WON 1105/1105 Wand of Ice Llandros 0 19 WON 605/ 605 Wand of Fire Shuyin 0 20 WON 3010/3010 Wand of Windwalls Ethelon 0 21 WON 2225/2225 Wand of Illusions Ethelon 0 22 WON 810/ 810 Dragon Breath Gauntlet Morkarion 0 23 WON 1010/1010 Thorn Cloak Malarious 0 24 WON 4505/4505 Crit Hit Lvl 4 Kelly 0 25 WON 1305/1305 Shallah's Tear Xenthos 0 ************************************************************************************************************************
Oh, and a suggestion for auctions after hearing the chatter afterwards... Perhaps add a line in STAT with "reserved credits", which only show up if it's an amount greater than zero, and everytime you bid on an auction, the credits are moved to that instead of just "disappearing"? Would resolve a lot of issues with how much is left to pay and so on.
**************************************************[ Current Auctions ]************************************************** Id Status Max / Min Title Winner Days Left ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 26 OPEN ---/ 1000 Transplanar Torus --- 125 27 OPEN ---/ 1000 Merciless Crow Censer --- 125 28 OPEN ---/ 1000 Majestic Hart Censer --- 125 29 OPEN ---/ 1000 Shifting Seas Censer --- 125 30 OPEN ---/ 1000 Tainted Earth Censer --- 125 31 OPEN ---/ 1000 Sacred Flames Censer --- 125 32 OPEN ---/ 1000 Censer of the Clouds --- 125 33 OPEN ---/ 1000 Rune of Absorption --- 125 34 OPEN ---/ 1000 Aetheric Quickening Ring --- 125 35 OPEN ---/ 1000 Circlet of Lucidity --- 125 ************************************************************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #26 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Transplanar Torus Prize: a transplanar torus Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: A transplanar Works exactly like a cubix but takes you to a personal room. Personal room has 6 exits of your choice with the following limitations: 1) the exit must be to a known plane (prime/ethereal/elemental/cosmic/astral), specifically it may not exit into a manse or aetherbubble; 2) it cannot exit into a commune, city or village; 3) it cannot exit within five rooms of an avatar-flagged denizen related to a city or commune, and 4) all exits will be subject to approval by the admin at their sole discretion. It is recommended that you check with the admin prior to purchasing this artifact to see if the exits you want would be approved to avoid misunderstandings. NOTE: THIS IS IN ADDITION TO NORMAL CUBIX EXITS (the special room has a down exit to the higher planar fulcrux as well as the 6 custom exits) ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #27 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Merciless Crow Censer Prize: a shadowy Censer of the Merciless Crow Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Lighting this censer will temporarily change the environment to wyrden woods (in the same manner as a Crow Druid would). However, this will not break (or infest) a melded environment. In the hands of a Crow Druid, equilibrium recovery for changing the environment to wyrden woods will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p to activate. ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #28 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Majestic Hart Censer Prize: a pale Censer of the Majestic Hart Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Lighting this censer will temporarily change the environment to forest (in the same manner as a Hart Druid would). However, this will not break (or forceforest) a melded environment. In the hands of a Hart Druid, equilibrium recovery for changing the environment to forest will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p to activate. ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #29 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Shifting Seas Censer Prize: an icy blue Censer of the Shifting Seas Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Lighting this censer will temporarily flood an environment (in the same manner as an Aquamancer would). However, this will not break (or forceflood) a melded environment. In the hands of an Aquamancer, equilibrium recovery for flooding an environment will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p to activate. ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #30 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Tainted Earth Censer Prize: a twisted Censer of the Tainted Earth Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Lighting this censer will temporarily change the environment to tainted (in the same manner as a Geomancer would). However, this will not break (or forcetaint) a melded environment. In the hands of a Geomancer, equilibrium recovery for tainting the environment will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p to activate. ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #31 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Sacred Flames Censer Prize: a burning Censer of the Sacred Flames Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Lighting this censer will temporarily combust an environment (in the same manner as an Pyromancer would). However, this will not break (or forcecombust) a melded environment. In the hands of an Pyromancer, equilibrium recovery for combusting an environment will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p to activate. ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #32 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Censer of the Clouds Prize: a misty Censer of the Clouds Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Lighting this censer will temporarily change the environment to clouds (in the same manner as a Aeromancer would). However, this will not break (or forcecondensate) a melded environment. In the hands of a Aeromancer, equilibrium recovery for condensating the environment will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p to activate. ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #33 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Rune of Absorption Prize: a Great Rune of Absorption Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Imbues you with a 15% chance of absorbing all physical damage. Only one will ever be effective per person (i.e., does not stack). ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #34 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Aetheric Quickening Ring Prize: a ring of aetheric quickening Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: - Speeds up teleporting, tesseracting, ghostwalking, milestones, pyramid and pentagon puzzles, and some other forms of teleportation. ************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #35 ********************************************* Title: (Days until closing: 125) Circlet of Lucidity Prize: a Circlet of Lucidity Current bid: 1000 golden sovereigns. Description: Your sanity will be partially protected while travelling the astral planes (approximately 50%). ************************************************************************
Well keep in mind, people will tend to be a lot more frivolous with excess gold they aren't using than with credits which are pretty much always valuable. It won't surprise me if they go very, very, very high, making an excellent gold sink. Even the lesser artis on that list will do a fantastic job.
Comments
Great Rune of Enchantment
Great Rune of Glassworking
a Great Rune of the Tobacconist
As those three are always useful, and especially the Glasswork rune may be one of those things you're unlikely to spend credits on, but can spend gold on.
A Drop of Extraspatial Aethersource
A Dose of Relative Dimensional Liquefication
Bubble of Popularity
Dimensional Anomaly
Same as those above, but I don't find them to be as important to add to the auction as the three runes.
Besides those, I'd like to see some interesting utility artifacts such as.
Gaudy Glamrock
Great Rune of (Influencing)
Dimensional Needle
Golden Paintbrush
Great Rune of Spatial Expansion
Master Sketch Seal
Great Rune of Enchanted Focus
Figurine Rune
Silver Shovel
Rune of Winter/Summer's Bane
And lastly, a few artifacts to really suck the gold out of the wealthy.
Pearl Ring
Bloodstone Ring
Sapphire Ring
Ruby Ring
Bar of Golden Soap
Rune of Vitality/Meditation/Charming Manners
Buy travel curios for gold,
Trade me any swan tail, left foot or sun 3rd beams,
Rub,
Spin,
Hope.
Auctions for gold could be interesting. Might temporarily drop credit prices a little but likely not for long.
Then, let's go with that there will be 25 gold auctions. I have no clue if this will be the final number, but it's the current amount of auctions, so let's go with that.
25 artifacts bought with gold among 1000 would constitute about... 2.5%. Yeah, that's pretty minimal, and won't even come close to "how we do things".
That said, I too have no interest in a 30% chance.
Just as a note, I think Shikha is saying that the suggestion of a gold artifact auction is just a method for people with a lot of gold to buy artifacts at a discounted price..because no one is going to pay more than the credit value of an artifact in gold if they can just buy the credits and get the artifact.....rather than a legitimate way to remove excess gold from the market.
Namely because anyone with common sense should know one time, one winner gold auctions would do zilch to the gold/credit issue.
For fun, unique, RP/QoL artifacts I don't see a problem. The long list of very useful, influential artifacts being listed is kind of over the top. Hey, I'm all about getting discounted artifacts, but don't try to mask it with false justifications about the gold market or whatever. Who are we kidding.
**************************************************[ Current Auctions ]**************************************************
Id Status Max/Min Title Winner Days Left
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 WON 750/ 750 Custom Ikon Xenthos 0
2 WON 250/ 250 Poisonists Charm Shinza 0
3 WON 255/ 255 Poisonists Charm Neraiche 0
4 WON 255/ 255 Poisonists Charm Sidd 0
5 WON 505/ 505 Magnifying Glass Ayisdra 0
6 WON 505/ 505 Magnifying Glass Dys 0
7 WON 450/ 450 Magnifying Glass Nihta 0
8 WON 75/ 75 Tattoo Goggles Ayisdra 0
9 WON 65/ 65 Tattoo Goggles Steingrim 0
10 WON 65/ 65 Tattoo Goggles Azula 0
11 WON 1510/1510 Boots of Shanth Skye 0
12 WON 305/ 305 Docking Bay Morbo 0
13 WON 300/ 300 Docking Bay Morshoth 0
14 WON 305/ 305 Docking Bay Munsia 0
15 WON 400/ 400 Clarramore's Worst Morbo 0
16 WON 405/ 405 Clarramore's Worst Silvanus 0
17 WON 400/ 400 Clarramore's Worst Morbo 0
18 WON 1105/1105 Wand of Ice Llandros 0
19 WON 605/ 605 Wand of Fire Shuyin 0
20 WON 3010/3010 Wand of Windwalls Ethelon 0
21 WON 2225/2225 Wand of Illusions Ethelon 0
22 WON 810/ 810 Dragon Breath Gauntlet Morkarion 0
23 WON 1010/1010 Thorn Cloak Malarious 0
24 WON 4505/4505 Crit Hit Lvl 4 Kelly 0
25 WON 1305/1305 Shallah's Tear Xenthos 0
************************************************************************************************************************
Congratulations to all the winners!
**************************************************[ Current Auctions ]**************************************************
Id Status Max / Min Title Winner Days Left
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
26 OPEN ---/ 1000 Transplanar Torus --- 125
27 OPEN ---/ 1000 Merciless Crow Censer --- 125
28 OPEN ---/ 1000 Majestic Hart Censer --- 125
29 OPEN ---/ 1000 Shifting Seas Censer --- 125
30 OPEN ---/ 1000 Tainted Earth Censer --- 125
31 OPEN ---/ 1000 Sacred Flames Censer --- 125
32 OPEN ---/ 1000 Censer of the Clouds --- 125
33 OPEN ---/ 1000 Rune of Absorption --- 125
34 OPEN ---/ 1000 Aetheric Quickening Ring --- 125
35 OPEN ---/ 1000 Circlet of Lucidity --- 125
************************************************************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #26 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Transplanar Torus
Prize:
a transplanar torus
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
A transplanar Works exactly like a cubix but takes you to a
personal room. Personal room has 6 exits of your choice with the
following limitations: 1) the exit must be to a known plane
(prime/ethereal/elemental/cosmic/astral), specifically it may
not exit into a manse or aetherbubble; 2) it cannot exit into a
commune, city or village; 3) it cannot exit within five rooms of
an avatar-flagged denizen related to a city or commune, and 4)
all exits will be subject to approval by the admin at their
sole discretion. It is recommended that you check with the admin
prior to purchasing this artifact to see if the exits you want
would be approved to avoid misunderstandings. NOTE: THIS IS IN
ADDITION TO NORMAL CUBIX EXITS (the special room has a down exit
to the higher planar fulcrux as well as the 6 custom exits)
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #27 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Merciless Crow Censer
Prize:
a shadowy Censer of the Merciless Crow
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Lighting this censer will temporarily change the
environment to wyrden woods (in the same manner as a Crow Druid
would). However, this will not break (or infest) a melded
environment. In the hands of a Crow Druid, equilibrium recovery
for changing the environment to wyrden woods will be cut by .5
seconds. Costs 1p to activate.
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #28 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Majestic Hart Censer
Prize:
a pale Censer of the Majestic Hart
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Lighting this censer will temporarily change the
environment to forest (in the same manner as a Hart Druid
would). However, this will not break (or forceforest) a melded
environment. In the hands of a Hart Druid, equilibrium recovery
for changing the environment to forest will be cut by .5
seconds. Costs 1p to activate.
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #29 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Shifting Seas Censer
Prize:
an icy blue Censer of the Shifting Seas
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Lighting this censer will temporarily flood an environment
(in the same manner as an Aquamancer would). However, this will
not break (or forceflood) a melded environment. In the hands of
an Aquamancer, equilibrium recovery for flooding an environment
will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p to activate.
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #30 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Tainted Earth Censer
Prize:
a twisted Censer of the Tainted Earth
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Lighting this censer will temporarily change the
environment to tainted (in the same manner as a Geomancer
would). However, this will not break (or forcetaint) a melded
environment. In the hands of a Geomancer, equilibrium recovery
for tainting the environment will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs 1p
to activate.
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #31 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Sacred Flames Censer
Prize:
a burning Censer of the Sacred Flames
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Lighting this censer will temporarily combust an
environment (in the same manner as an Pyromancer would).
However, this will not break (or forcecombust) a melded
environment. In the hands of an Pyromancer, equilibrium recovery
for combusting an environment will be cut by .5 seconds. Costs
1p to activate.
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #32 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Censer of the Clouds
Prize:
a misty Censer of the Clouds
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Lighting this censer will temporarily change the
environment to clouds (in the same manner as a Aeromancer
would). However, this will not break (or forcecondensate) a
melded environment. In the hands of a Aeromancer, equilibrium
recovery for condensating the environment will be cut by .5
seconds. Costs 1p to activate.
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #33 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Rune of Absorption
Prize:
a Great Rune of Absorption
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Imbues you with a 15% chance of absorbing all physical
damage. Only one will ever be effective per person (i.e., does
not stack).
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #34 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Aetheric Quickening Ring
Prize:
a ring of aetheric quickening
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
- Speeds up teleporting, tesseracting, ghostwalking,
milestones, pyramid and pentagon puzzles, and some other forms
of teleportation.
************************************************************************
** Summary for Auction #35 *********************************************
Title: (Days until closing: 125)
Circlet of Lucidity
Prize:
a Circlet of Lucidity
Current bid:
1000 golden sovereigns.
Description:
Your sanity will be partially protected while travelling
the astral planes (approximately 50%).
************************************************************************
The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."
You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!
Custom ikon for gold please!
Can't say we didn't give you a chance then! 8-X
Fire walls come up, but no actual rooms get set on fire, even in woodland*. Bugged it just in case.
*Any Seren's reading this, there's some inactive fire walls at your entrances.
The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."
You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!
The divine voice of Avechna, the Avenger reverberates powerfully, "Congratulations, Morkarion, you are the Bringer of Death indeed."
You see Estarra the Eternal shout, "Morkarion is no more! Mourn the mortal! But welcome True Ascendant Karlach, of the Realm of Death!