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How to get deeper into Lore and such?
Hey,
so, something that's been on my mind a while and I've not found a particularly good solution to. I'm trying to actually figure out how to get a better grasp on lore of Lusternia. Not only those things that happened in the 'creation story', I got those mostly covered, but more like what happened in between. It pops up in the odd knowledge quiz and every other situation here and there. And am a little like 'how do you even find out all about this stuff?'.
I was reading through the questions of the last knowledge seal yesterday and I was like 'how do I answer any of them?'. Mostly because I wouldn't even know where to start, let a lone would have had any of that knowledge ready. This is not only interesting because there will hopefully be another knowledge seal in the future, but also because I really love the lore of lusternia and would love to delve in deeper. Plus, I think many RP situations can benefit from an odd reference to something in the past you can make.
My current only working solution is to tackle a really old player and basically beg them to tell me stories of the past. While that is fun and some people tell really well, I kind of feel like I don't want to drain people's play time all the time, just because I'm hungry for knowledge.
And there's so many odd things like finding statue's of certain vernal gods in certain places, or references here and there that I just don't get but would love to get.
so... am basically looking on hints or ideas to improve my grasp on general lusternia lore. Anybody got any hints for me?
so, something that's been on my mind a while and I've not found a particularly good solution to. I'm trying to actually figure out how to get a better grasp on lore of Lusternia. Not only those things that happened in the 'creation story', I got those mostly covered, but more like what happened in between. It pops up in the odd knowledge quiz and every other situation here and there. And am a little like 'how do you even find out all about this stuff?'.
I was reading through the questions of the last knowledge seal yesterday and I was like 'how do I answer any of them?'. Mostly because I wouldn't even know where to start, let a lone would have had any of that knowledge ready. This is not only interesting because there will hopefully be another knowledge seal in the future, but also because I really love the lore of lusternia and would love to delve in deeper. Plus, I think many RP situations can benefit from an odd reference to something in the past you can make.
My current only working solution is to tackle a really old player and basically beg them to tell me stories of the past. While that is fun and some people tell really well, I kind of feel like I don't want to drain people's play time all the time, just because I'm hungry for knowledge.
And there's so many odd things like finding statue's of certain vernal gods in certain places, or references here and there that I just don't get but would love to get.
so... am basically looking on hints or ideas to improve my grasp on general lusternia lore. Anybody got any hints for me?
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I think a lot of folks read through all of the Events posts, as they have quite a bit of tidbits within them. Though there are of course a TON of Events that have happened over the years, so that'll undoubtedly take a while...
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Reading the Events posts archives is a definite help. If you're in an older Order, browsing through old news posts can give you ideas of things to try to learn more about, this can also be true of guild and city/commune posts although there you have a LOT of extra stuff to comb through. What can help is if there's an event news post you find interesting, look at when it was posted and if it references any dates, then try to triage the city/guild news for up to 10 years prior/any dates mentioned and see if you can find ones referencing the event.The great libraries, guild libraries and stages can also be a wealth of information that other players have put together and presented/found worth preserving. For great libraries you'll want to browse by scholarly, or else see if your library actually makes good use of the catalogue system, or just title search keywords and see if you get anything good. Stage performances I know Lendren has a couple of historically-based performances. Also worth asking around to see if anyone has copies of literature written by NPCs that were quest rewards (Tip: bug Iytha)Finally, quests! I'd recommend trying to hit the various Voices quests, if you haven't already, especially Trialante and Rhapsody for Vernal lore. Scorpion Caverns is pretty interesting as well. Caoimhe Dell is good, I've heard fantastic things about Morn'Hai but last I looked it seemed like it might be broken(?). There's lots of others, of course, but those are the ones that spring immediately to mind.1
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Trialante's quest is in the Hifarae Hills, off a hidden exit. It's not an honour quest, but it does have a lot of information, both about Trialante and Charune, but also the Sileni race and the Vernal Goddess Kiakoda.Rhapsody's quest starts on the boat in the Inner Sea. Also not an honour quest, but does give a journal recording events of the Vernal wars (the journal resets eventually)As gm of one of the bard guilds, Allyrianne's usually quite happy to help people learn more about the Voices, so if you want to get in touch ic, I'll see if I can give you a more detailed rundown of some of this.2
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Vivet
, of Cows and Crystals
Trialante's quest bit is in the Hifarae hills, and involves using the panpipes near Ahote. I'm sure you can find someone who's done the quest if you just want the info, though.Aeldra said:@Allyrianne I am not 100% sure about those 'voices' quests. At least, I've not run into them yet, but I'll definitely keep looking. That was a wealth of information, thank you.5 -
Everiine
Wise Old Swordsbird / Brontaur Indianapolis, IN, USA
Most non-village quests are stuffed full of lore. You'll learn a lot about the history of each area if you do them!
Everiine is a man, and is very manly. This MAN before you is so manly you might as well just gender bend right now, cause he's the manliest man that you ever did see. His manly shape has spurned many women and girlyer men to boughs of fainting. He stands before you in a manly manerific typical man-like outfit which is covered in his manly motto: "I am a man!"
Daraius said: You gotta risk it for the biscuit.
Pony power all the way, yo. The more Brontaurs the better.5 -
If you want to venture into more Gaudiguch-related lore, poke around the tower in Shallach Ruins. Or check out the Xeeth Labs (you will be closely watched by Serenwilde ans Glomdoring).See you in Sapience.5
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Ushaara
Schrödinger's Traitor
If you're delving into lore for quiz purposes, then the histories and the events newsboard are your go-to places.
But for more general lore learning, (like real learning) you really do have to break it down, and just pick a general (or specific) topic to try find out more about and spend some time on it, be it checking what's available on it in a library, exploring the area, saying every relevant word you can think of to try trigger a mob reaction, talking others/divine, etc.
But Lusternia's lore is pretty great, and the admin do a great job of packing lore into most every area, so there is always something new to learn about, or something that adds to existing lore. Even the non-honour quests can reveal mini-lore snippets that can be really nifty (e.g. helping Wydyr Glade Dowager get rid of the squonks gives you some Elder War memory crystals, helping that aslaran person in Grey Moors gives info on Shanth's trapping of Crazen).
The big grindy quests (e.g. Icewynd, Lirangsha) can have a reward of Vernal era books that are pretty great, but obviously are a bit more restricted to learn from the source. Copies should be in the libraries though.
I think the only lore book that can't be retrieved first-hand from a quest now is the Burning Star (Dumaliel/Grimbach related) one, which is a bit of a shame.
So in a nutshell, get to know Lusternia's areas, then just pick something that interests you and go poke about in likely areas!
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Back forever ago, while studying for one of Lusternia's quizzes, I actually printed out all of the event posts and sat down with a highlighter. The posts were almost always interesting and reading about all these events was actually exciting rather than exhausting. It's tangible history, as players you all live in the aftermath of all these events and all of them weigh in on the future.
In addition to that, exploring areas focused on certain aspects of the lore is a great way to find those details that defy the toughest of competitors. We do, however, use a little bit of everything for the Quizzes.
Lastly, and let me preface that by saying this is not a promise or something definite, we have been looking at ways of making lore more accessible and have come up with a few ideas. One of them is expanding our quest system to include categories/themes, and even tags. With that, we could create, say, the "Delving into the Holy Celestine Empire" category and tag any quest that reveals significant information about the Empire as belonging to it. Actually, it might even be interesting to... [DATA REDACTED].