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Rancoura said:

I would like to see the event re-run after the lag issues are fixed. Be that later this summer or next year, however long it takes. If it's not certain who the winner would have been without the lag, declare none instead of handing out participation prizes which were not offered in the past.

Our primary runner just killed himself IC over the handling of this event, so it would be hard to replicate at this point.

Xenthos said:

How can this situation be fixed at this point?  I am kind of at a loss.  There was a rush to make and post a decision asap.  The clearest possible alternative to undoing the decision would have been to raise Ciaran as well, I guess.  Something is not as special if it is shared, and giving a "bonus ta" to both sides might have been easier to swallow.  The event could have been thus presented as a unified thing for all sides to come together on... but, well.  That is not possible now.  I know Ciaran asked them about the possibility, no idea if he ever got a reply though.

I guess we can see if people would put their money where their mouth is.  Aramel was the runner up for Justice; Aramel was also (arguably) the most key person on our team.  If anyone deserves recognition for the win, I would rate her highly.  Evette and Jaspet were just short on Death, putting in an incredible performance, and one of them was tagged as MVP by Choros for simply keeping him alive.  Tarken was the runner up for War, and ceded the seal to Ciaran because he couldn't see us having a chance and thought someone who did not have a seal should get one.

We are already bending the event here.  Would any of you people be willing to accept one of these four as a "runner-up TA" (whatever the heck we are going to call it)?

As I said in my previous post, we're just not seeing the consideration going both ways here.  I don't think that this idea is even seriously on the table from the admin pov btw, it is simply a "food for thought" query.

I've refrained from commenting thus far, because it's the forums and mirroring what a few others have said - It's wandering into a fire, but I'm choosing to do that now. Should it be a fire? No. It's a game, but I understand that as humans we all have feelings which can bleed through, just like reading a book etc.

I could add further opinion and comment, but I think it's adding fuel to the fire? I will in some shape or form, but hesitantly.

A) We all suffered the lag. I don't think there is one person who joined that didn't.

We don't know who would have won because Aramel and a few others really did go to town on pulling people together. Those people they banded together also spent out to help. Just like the opposite side did, I presume. 

C) What if there was no lag and Parhelion won anyway? 

D) People are angry because while we might have won due to pulling together, using up personal time, spending out, staying up late - Everyone worked for him to win. I think people on our side are feeling frustrated, because giving away TA, feels like giving the other side compensation...rather than a win. I don't know either characters very well IC/OOC, so I am not personally going to comment on them. 

E) On the other hand - The other side also spent out and used up their personal time and now have a TA. It's two sides of a coin. 

With all of that being said; What -is- the resolution? Will there be one? Can there be one? What do we want as a resolution? Raise a second TA? Compensate every single person who participated on -both- sides? I am also well aware that having an opinion doesn't make you right, either. 

Moving on: Xenthos Mentioned about making the Discord Official. I support this comment. So many times it devolves into slanging matches and people who want to enjoy the game, on both sides, end up sitting in silence or just QQ'ing permanently. Granted, they have a choice to stay out of OOC, but a lot of things happen on Discord as we can see is emerging. SM have recently made their Discord Official and linked it to the Newbie channel - It's actually a pretty nice addition. While they still have some flinging matches, I don't think it's half as bad. It gives it a formal and moe business like feel (IMO).  I'm also increasingly aware of how easy it is for a minority of people (lately) to spread mal-information between Orgs and lambast others, while sitting pretty and unaffected. Yet, when those Org's come together you notice a completely different side and they are actually pretty nice. I won't go into further detail on this, because I'm trying to be thoughtful. It happens on both sides, though. It's bad that we feel the need to request it, because adults should be able to school their behaviours when online. 

All-in-all...the game has lost a great guy - Ciaran. 

That's my two-penneth worth.