Best Of

I would really prefer not to be given anything extra, thanks. I'm not interested in being that ascendant who got a bonus because his opponent was so close, and I dont want to be the guy people point at next year and say, "He got this, why dont I get it?!?!?!"

Hi everyone,

I've taken a few days to cool down from the announcement post, because I was upset and honestly angry and I wanted to walk away and explore why I was feeling that way. Now I'm going to post this as a caveat before I get tainted with being toxic.  I have nothing OOC against Ixion, I don't know him. 

Mboagn said:

The Seal of Time, damaged from the hiccup, needs repairing. But it's too soon for another full Trial of Ascension. Avechna decides that this must be sudden death. Parhelion and two companions must face off against Ixion (/whatever his TA name will be) and his two companions. The two teams will be on Astral by themselves, where they must fight once more for the Staff. Since this is a quick-and-dirty Trial, they only need to race to 1800 (only Ixion and Parhelion can get points, but their companions can run for the Staff).

Firstly this is a horrendous idea . In theory it does sound amazing, but you are pitting one of the best PK'ers off against someone who PK's because they have to. The RP behind it is sound, but the actual application means that Ixion wins (My opinion).

Okay so why was I upset by this? I agree that lag was a massive issue for both sides during Ascension, and it was the worst lag we have had during the event. What I feel is being massively brushed under the carpet here by a lot of people is the following:

1) Celest/Glom/Halli has 2 seal bearers. This means we had one person who could be a runner, and one person who was able to run for the staff. With a few Hail Mary's Ciaran managed to grab the staff on several occasions. This is before six other people who were able to act as runners grabbed it. This was while both teams were fighting with lag. Now if Mag/Seren/Gaudi choose not to allow all of their other seal bearers baring Ixion to be runners, that's really down to them.

To clearly lay out my thoughts, this is like the finals of the premier league football. IHC had all 11 players on the field. Equinox had 6 players. With just them 6 they managed to win. Ref decides that the ground was too wet and everyone was slipping over on both sides. So we're going to just award the trophy to both sides this year.

2) OOCly I only cared who won Ascension based on sides. This isn't because I didn't want Ixion to be ascended, I didn't want my team losing. It could have been anyone on IHC's side up for TA, my feelings wouldn't have changed. Like many I see this as a competitive sport. ICly Aknarin is going to be crushed by the idea that someone from Magnagora and is Tainted is also becoming a TA. As the Queen of Celest, her duty to the Supernals, the Citizens, the Tide Lords, Divine etc etc is to stop the Tainted and remove them from the Basin of Life... this is just another step further away from it.

3) I don't feel a RP event for both sides helps to negate the negative feelings this decision has fostered within Equinox. Of course everyone is IHC is going to rave about how good it is, you're also getting something etc. A special event for Equinox in my honest opinion will not in any way, shape or form make them feel equal. I honestly don't have a solution that hasn't been suggested by @Xenthos or others during this thread, which isn't very helpful I know and I'm sorry. I'm just stating the fact.

Feel free to call me whatever you wish, but I honestly feel that IHC are always going to say 'this is good, accept it, stop being toxic' because generally they are benefitting from this. I also feel Equinox are going to push for something until they're blue in the face, because although people are saying "we're not taking anything away from you" you are giving the side that did not win the top prize.

Orael said:

Xenthos said:

Can you please explain how you feel that the second suggestion makes Ixion any less of a TA?  In this scenario, Ixion would be equivalent to both Yendor & me as a TA, but Choros would have gained a little extra perk that he shared with his team.

I think I missed your saying that being anything less than a full TA mechanics-wise would be a violation of your lines, but it is useful to know.

Because it means that you're getting something and they're not because they had bad luck with lag that potentially ruined their chances. It's back to the same thought process as why I don't think 2 TA's for your side is fair when only giving one to them. 

I may be misunderstanding this, but Orael, you've stated that you didn't mean to take away the "win", or to insinuate that Shadowlight didn't "win", but I'm not seeing how that dovetails with this insistence that only IHC had bad luck with lag, or that the people who got to 3600 first shouldn't get something above and beyond in recognition of that fact.

It's been three days... why are we still continuing to make this such a big deal? Just drop it and move on. There are more important things to concern yourself with than this. Like you know... how we could possibly change Ascension to make it a bit better in the long run so this entire 'I hate you, so I'm going to do everything I can to stop you from Ascending' stuff can just not be a thing. Just... sheesh. It's sad that this has to come from a guy who barely knows anything about the game itself.

Edit: I'm just going to stop. This needs entire thread just needs to die down.